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Old 06-13-2014, 07:28 AM
 
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The Conservatives are grasping at anything they can to stay relevant. It is going to take a MAJOR culture change for them to be viable in the next 3 or 4 elections.

 
Old 06-13-2014, 07:35 AM
 
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The Conservatives are grasping at anything they can to stay relevant. It is going to take a MAJOR culture change for them to be viable in the next 3 or 4 elections.
really? so the election results in the VA primary where the more conservative candidate won despite being underfunded and not being the incumbent mean nothing then? i believe the political pendulum is swinging back to the conservative side, be we shall see what happens later this year when the people go to the polls to vote. i suspect the republicans will gain seat in the house and senate both.
 
Old 06-13-2014, 07:45 AM
 
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really? so the election results in the VA primary where the more conservative candidate won despite being underfunded and not being the incumbent mean nothing then? i believe the political pendulum is swinging back to the conservative side, be we shall see what happens later this year when the people go to the polls to vote. i suspect the republicans will gain seat in the house and senate both.
Nothing will really change tho...

it always swings back to the other side and the libs and conservatives do a 180.

Issues that mad one side angry will suddenly make sense once "their" side signs off on it and vice versa.
 
Old 06-13-2014, 07:52 AM
 
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Hannity killed cops????

How did I miss that????
Right wing media bias covered it up.

 
Old 06-13-2014, 07:54 AM
 
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While I hesitate to accuse specific people of specific criminal actions, there is no question that RWNJs foster the sickness in our society that leads to many terrible outcomes, and generally foster the kind of sordid ignorance among their adherents that leads to a tendency toward getting one's way with violence rather than accepting the realities associated with the fact that one lives in society with others.
Why do you hate the Constitution?
 
Old 06-13-2014, 07:56 AM
 
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Nothing will really change tho...

it always swings back to the other side and the libs and conservatives do a 180.

Issues that mad one side angry will suddenly make sense once "their" side signs off on it and vice versa.
It will not change because we no longer have three equal branches of government. The Executive Branch has it really weighted to it's side because it's in control of the bureaucracy. I believe it was Mark Steyn who said, "Who needs a dictator for life when you have a bureaucracy for life?"
 
Old 06-13-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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It will not change because we no longer have three equal branches of government. The Executive Branch has it really weighted to it's side because it's in control of the bureaucracy. I believe it was Mark Steyn who said, "Who needs a dictator for life when you have a bureaucracy for life?"
well said my friend, well said.
 
Old 06-13-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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Nothing will really change tho...

it always swings back to the other side and the libs and conservatives do a 180.

Issues that mad one side angry will suddenly make sense once "their" side signs off on it and vice versa.

What are you going to do about it? Complain about it then go vote the same as always?


What can you even do about it?


Rousseau's Theory of the State

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who would fulfill the functions of the State?

The best citizens, would be the answer, the most intelligent and the most virtuous, those who understand better than the others the common interests of society and the need, the duty, of everyone to subordinate his own interests to the common good. It is, in fact; necessary for these men to be as intelligent as they are virtuous; if they were intelligent but lacked virtue, they might very well use the public welfare to serve their private interests, and if they were virtuous but lacked intelligence, their good faith would not be enough to save the public interest from their errors. It is therefore necessary, in order that a republic may not perish, that it have available throughout its duration a continuous succession of many citizens possessing both virtue and intelligence.
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Let us assume that, in an ideal society, in each period, there were a sufficient number of men both intelligent and virtuous to discharge the principal functions of the State worthily. Who would seek them out, select them, and place the reins of power in their hands? Would they themselves, aware of their intelligence and their virtue, take possession of the power?

If they used persuasion, we might remark that he can best persuade who is himself persuaded, and the best men are precisely those who are least persuaded of their own worth. Even when they are aware of it, they usually find it repugnant to press their claim upon others, while wicked and mediocre men, always satisfied with themselves, feel no repugnance in glorifying themselves. But let us even suppose that the desire to serve their country had overcome the natural modesty of truly worthy men and induced them to offer themselves as candidates for the suffrage of their fellow citizens. Would the people necessarily accept these in preference to ambitious, smooth-tongued, clever schemers?
 
Old 06-13-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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It will not change because we no longer have three equal branches of government. The Executive Branch has it really weighted to it's side because it's in control of the bureaucracy. I believe it was Mark Steyn who said, "Who needs a dictator for life when you have a bureaucracy for life?"

We have never had three equal branches of government. For that matter, the whole idea of separation of powers is idiotic. It assumes that the three branches of government are somehow uniquely appointed. Congress is elected in the same way as the president, and the court is appointed by them. And presidents, judges, and most Congressmen are lawyers.


If we are hoping that the separation of powers somehow stops abuses of government. All we can really hope for, is that the majority ideology in each branch is different than the majority of the other branches. Basically, if the courts, the presidency, and the Congress were filled full of liberals, there might as well not even be different branches.


Of course, when the branches of government differ in ideology, we then complain about how government "can't get anything done".


The truth is, you people deserve a monarch, because you are too stupid to understand the dangers of democracy.
 
Old 06-13-2014, 08:32 AM
 
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Any links for the AR15 picture.....or, were you there????
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