Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-17-2014, 06:48 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
78,863 posts, read 46,617,602 times
Reputation: 18521

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankMiller View Post
My cat got a credit card, tell me corporations are on top of anything.

But your cat is not dead.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-17-2014, 10:58 PM
 
33,016 posts, read 27,455,098 times
Reputation: 9074
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
This is why black neighborhoods don't want Trader Joe's to be built.

??? Black neighborhoods don't want Trader Joe's to be built because that would change a citywide or countywide juror pool???

???
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-17-2014, 11:08 PM
 
33,016 posts, read 27,455,098 times
Reputation: 9074
Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankMiller View Post
My cat got a credit card, tell me corporations are on top of anything.

Your cat has a surname?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-18-2014, 06:14 AM
 
4,873 posts, read 3,601,591 times
Reputation: 3881
Quote:
Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
But your cat is not dead.
Touche.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-18-2014, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
5,094 posts, read 5,173,833 times
Reputation: 4233
Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankMiller View Post
The whole point of juries is that defendants are convicted by their peers. If you build a dualistic society, it somewhat defeats the purpose if juries of gentrifying whites are convicting poor slumdwellers. We don't need juries if they're just going to validate the White Establishment's judgements being handed down in the ghetto.

The jury pool lives in the same neighborhood. Are you saying that if you are a white store owner and get robbed at gunpoint and shot you should just "get over it" because of differences in culture?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-18-2014, 07:02 AM
 
20,329 posts, read 19,921,823 times
Reputation: 13440
Once I saw "Williamsburg" the first thing that came to mind was a neighborhood bursting at the seams with diversity-loving progressives.

That should be a defense attorney's fantasy to have the beta males, such as the ones in the picture, be on a jury where the defendant is one of....uh......color.

Those guys will suspend all disbelief to show how tolerant and inclusive they are.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-18-2014, 07:19 AM
 
Location: USA
13,255 posts, read 12,126,416 times
Reputation: 4228
This isn't an issue just pertaining to Brooklyn. It happens all over this country. If you look at the justice system statistics, blacks are more likely to get convicted, and when they do, our sentences are often longer.


Our justice system is a mess in some sense. We have 25% of the world's prison population but are also the most dangerous (either us or Russia) of the developed countries I believe. If the solution was to simply lock up as many people for as long as possible then our stats would be reversed.



Doesn't take a genius to tell you our strategy isn't working.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-18-2014, 07:20 AM
 
20,524 posts, read 15,901,778 times
Reputation: 5948
Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardA View Post
This is a very interesting article and touches on themes I've addressed on this forum before.
I've always stated that the Black community tends to take a hostile posture towards law enforcement and is more tolerant of crime than the larger community. This type of attitude feeds on itself and makes Black communities more dangerous.

Baltimore for example is notorious for its pro-defendant juries and jury nullification.
When Brooklyn juries gentrify, defendants lose | New York Post
Uh; do you mean hood rat Black people or decent Black dudes and ladies who take care of business? Word is the BIGGEST "racists" against ghetto Black people ARE people who have the same skin color because the rats make them look real bad.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-18-2014, 07:22 AM
 
20,524 posts, read 15,901,778 times
Reputation: 5948
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gtownoe View Post
This isn't an issue just pertaining to Brooklyn. It happens all over this country. If you look at the justice system statistics, blacks are more likely to get convicted, and when they do, our sentences are often longer.


Our justice system is a mess in some sense. We have 25% of the world's prison population but are also the most dangerous (either us or Russia) of the developed countries I believe. If the solution was to simply lock up as many people for as long as possible then our stats would be reversed.



Doesn't take a genius to tell you our strategy isn't working.
If talking about possession of marijuana, I agree with you 100 percent. IF talking about especially crack; those fools DO need to be locked up, just like anglo white Meth heads.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-18-2014, 07:36 AM
 
Location: USA
13,255 posts, read 12,126,416 times
Reputation: 4228
Quote:
Originally Posted by Packard fan View Post
If talking about possession of marijuana, I agree with you 100 percent. IF talking about especially crack; those fools DO need to be locked up, just like anglo white Meth heads.
Agreed to the point they need help. I just think the non-violent offenders need some type of help beyond imprisonment. We need to start providing them with real treatment imo. Let's start reducing the problem.


When it comes to drugs, I believe the only time a person should be locked up is if they violate another law in the process. Pass out on the street, public intoxication. Get into a car accident, face the consequences, etc.


I'm totally against the Drug War and believe most people would make smart choices regardless of the legality of drugs.


As far as violent crime, that's a whole nother issue and beyond a quick fix.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:32 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top