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Are you 4 or 5? Clandestine (read: spy/intelligence) services do not have the luxury of getting the people they are spying on to exclaim: "we have the bomb!" This is not Hollywood, you use clues and tidbits of facts to make an assessment, an obvious fact that is clearly beyond your grasp.
Uh, Austria, England, Czechs, Canada, a bunch of others. Other than the UN inspectors, who'd been out of iraq for years, no one was really arguing too hard he didn't have them.
That you are posing this question indicates that you are way in over your head.
Hans Blix from the UN along with several hundred inspectors from various countries found no evidence of WMD's but we still decided to invade. The inspected hundreds of sites from 2000 to 2003 and found nothing.
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BERKELEY – Speaking on the anniversary of the United States' invasion of Iraq,
originally declared as a pre-emptive strike against a madman ready to deploy weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), the man first charged with finding those weapons said that
the U.S. government has "the same mind frame as the witch hunters of the past" — looking for
evidence to support a foregone conclusion.
"There were about 700 inspections, and in no case did we find weapons of mass destruction," said Hans Blix, the Swedish diplomat called out of retirement to serve as the United Nations' chief weapons inspector from 2000 to 2003;
Sky rocketing fuel and food prices are in the cards already and with that said how to you justify sending more troops to die in the ME. I mean inflation should be a reason to invade countries or fight the fight that they should be fighting? I do not think that is a justification to go to war.
I'm not advocating war.
I'm discussing the fact that Obama has created conditions for war all over the middle east and north Africa and this will have consequences for Americans, particularly people on the dole. Take the problem up with him.
The person who who is most responsible for the debacle and omnishambles know as the Iraq War has the audacity to criticize Obama over his actions in Iraq. What is the USA's No. 1 chicken hawk solution to the Iraq fiasco, send more Americans to die in Iraq. Because of his action future generations will be dealing with the mess he created.
Can't help but laugh at people like this. Intelligence is hypothesis, supposition, guesswork;
Funny how the qualifiers came out after the fact. Because I don't recall Colin Powell or Rumsfeld or Rice talking about guesswork. Rumsfeld stepped up and declared the administration knew where the WMD were.
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if they were wrong
Ehm - they were wrong.
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and the US did nothing and saddam dropped a warhead on the US or an ally - people like you would be screeching against Bush "why didn't you DO something!"
Dear Lord, you now have to dream up hypothetical scenarios to justify your stance. Not even likely scenarios, at that. Iraq "dropping a warhead on the US", in what world does that even make sense? Although it has been a while I've heard the "He's a madman" when some particularly ludicrous scenario that required Saddam to act against his own interests was trotted out, so - thanks for the trip down memory lane, I guess.
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And materials can be compartmentalized or destroyed, like iran's nuclear weapons program.
Oooh, so now it's "materials" or "programs" - no longer "weapons"? Damn, those goalposts do get moved around quite a bit, don't they?
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Or India's. Or Pakistan's.
If you think India could ship out their nuclear weapons and programs in a matter of months without leaving any evidence behind, you're really not part of the real world. It's a preposterous idea.
Uh, Austria, England, Czechs, Canada, a bunch of others. Other than the UN inspectors, who'd been out of iraq for years, no one was really arguing too hard he didn't have them.
Could you cite Austria's backing evidence? I followed it rather closely and can't recall Austria having much of an influence, but if you have a link or two - my German is quite good, if that helps any.
I'm discussing the fact that Obama has created conditions for war all over the middle east and north Africa and this will have consequences for Americans, particularly people on the dole. Take the problem up with him.
Great post, something the left will never figure out!
The person who who is most responsible for the debacle and omnishambles know as the Iraq War has the audacity to criticize Obama over his actions in Iraq. What is the USA's No. 1 chicken hawk solution to the Iraq fiasco, send more Americans to die in Iraq. Because of his action future generations will be dealing with the mess he created.
No one with three working brain cells would listen to Cheney's imbecilic mutterings on Iraq. The record shows him to be about 0 for 226 or something along those lines.
Are you 4 or 5? Clandestine (read: spy/intelligence) services do not have the luxury of getting the people they are spying on to exclaim: "we have the bomb!" This is not Hollywood, you use clues and tidbits of facts to make an assessment, an obvious fact that is clearly beyond your grasp.
I didn't ask if anyone said "we have the bomb!". I asked if no one proving something did not happen means you believe it did.
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Uh, Austria, England, Czechs, Canada, a bunch of others. Other than the UN inspectors, who'd been out of iraq for years, no one was really arguing too hard he didn't have them.
Garbage. Canada's position, at least, did not reflect the US's. I have to assume that you're wrong about those other countries too.
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That you are posing this question indicates that you are way in over your head.
Nonsense. If, say, Poland got their intelligence from the US, then their intelligence agencies are parroting, not confirming, the scum Bush's lies and bringing them up as vindication of the US's claims is worthless. This is what the scum Cheney did: feed data to the NYT then claim the NYT's publication of that data represents independent confirmation of his claims.
I think Liberals and Obama are seeing the living in a vacuum and thinking we can all just get along in a world with same type bad guys and not at all like 1939.People once felt safe but have learn this isn't 1939 world. Isolation just means ignoring reality of the real world. as it did up to 1939. Thanks to the guy who fought in dessert storm also.
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Dick Cheney criticizes Obama over Iraq
