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One dissenter against the the overall scientific community?
There is no overall scientific community.
How many physicists are in this "overall scientific community?"
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Originally Posted by katzpaw
He wasn't fired from his university. He was 'fired' from the left wing think tank IPS. The Heritage Foundation is the right wing equivalent of IPS. Writers for the Heritage Foundation would similarly be let go if they wrote pro left wing articles.
Um, the Heritage Foundation is Left-Wing.
Since you apparently just arrived on Earth yesterday, I'll take pity and bring you up to speed on Reality and History.
There was a big war and it was a mess, so the Germans bought train tickets for these two guys in Paris, named Lenin and Trotsky. Lenin and Trotsky rode the train to Moscow and started a civil war to overthrow the monarchy. The big war was less of a mess, since Russia was no longer it, but Russia was a mess.
Then Lenin got mad at Trotsky and told Trotsky to GTFO.
So, Trotsky fled to Mexico City, Mexico.
Then, a bunch of university professors from the University of Chicago and Ivy League schools with names like these....
Abrahams
Abrahamson
Adams
Bachman
Baum
Baumann
Bieber
Blum
Blumenthal
Blumstein
Cohen
David
Fisher
Greenberg
Greenspan
Hayes
Herschel
Hirsch
Horowitz
Jordan
Kaminski
Kaufman
Klein
Kramer
Lehrer
Lowe
Meier
Meyer
Neuman
Novak
Nussbaum
Prinz
Reis
Reuter
Riese
Rosenberg
Rothenberg
Rothschild
Schwarz
Seidel
Seinfeld
Shapiro
Sherman
Siegel
Silverstein
Simon
Stein
Suess
Waldvogel
Wallach
Wang
Ward
Wexler
Wolff
Zimmermann
...went to visit Trotsky in his new villa, and brought him matzo balls as housewarming gifts.
With guidance from Trotsky, they started a ritzy club called the "Young People's Socialist League."
Then a Socialist like FDR got elected, and they all got jobs working in the US government.
And then the Young People's Socialist League merged with another political party called the Social Democrats.
Since Young People's Socialist League-Social Democrats is a mouthful, they shortened the name to YPSL-Social Democrats, and later YPSL-SD.
When the Red Scare started to get scary, they dropped the "Young People's Socialist League" part and just became Social Democrats.
After bankrupting the US with Johnson's Grotesque Society, they did an about face in the late 1960s.
So Irving Kristol and his son William Kirstol and Daniel Bell and Henry Kissinger and Gary Sick and Zbigniew Brzezinski and Paul Wolfowitz and Donald Rumsfeld and Douglas Feith and others re-tooled your entire Geo-Political Strategy.
They abandoned Southeast Asia and the Pacific Rim, switching to the Middle East/Central Asia/Eastern Russia, Kissinger sold out the Indians to the Chinese, almost starting WW III (just a few minutes away from that --- the closest you ever came) to get Nixon into China and then kicked Taiwan off of the UN Security Council and then booted Taiwan from the UN, replaced Taiwan with China, dumped the Gold Standard in favor of the Petro-Dollar, gave us the Carter Doctrine and an RDF to support it...
...and here we all are.
Irving Kristol's Two Cheers for Capitalism and Daniel Bell's Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism are seminal works for Socialists.....'cause, you know, they don't really like Capitalism.
Maybe when you quit wasting time on the internet, you'll take a few university classes in political science, at which point you'll discover the reality that Socialists and Communists tend to be very, very conservative.
The term "Neo-Conservative" was coined by the New York Times in an interview with Kristol sometime around 1976 (if I remember correctly), because he was interviewed in connection with his book, Two Cheers for Capitalism.
If you want to maintain the facade that the Heritage Foundation is "right-wing" and Neo-Conservatives are Republican, fine, but don't get mad when everyone who knows the truth laughs at you.
Politically scientific...
"The Heritage Foundation is an American conservative think tank based in Washington, D.C. Heritage's stated mission is to "formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense".[2]"
Of course, now we'll get a long-winded and insane reply about how Wikipedia is also a liberal plot...
I also love the concept that there "is no overall scientific community." Right... because scientists all work in their labs without ever peer-reviewing their work, etc...
One dissenter against the the overall scientific community? I'll take the latter. Compare conservatism against science over the years. How did that earth is flat and the sun revolves around the earth debate turn out?
It is very dangerous to silence the opposition with slander or push for laws to lock up people that disagree with you. We were warned for years that by now, we would be underwater or massive heat waves. None of that has happened and the majority of people see this global warming scam for what it is.
Please... no amount of proof will ever satisfy the deniers.
They deny CO2 is a greenhouse gas and claim, "Oh, plants like it, so it must be good for people, too!" Based on that logic, standing in the sun all day in a pile of aged manure is also good for people since it's good for plants.
EVERY single one of them? Or just the ideologues like the ignoramus Limbaugh and their true believer followers?
There are plenty of real scientists who are skeptical - based on science, not opinion.
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Originally Posted by Rambler123
They are unable to tell the difference between weather and climate and love to cherry-pick their weather stories to "disprove" climate change. "Oh, we had a cold winter, therefore the climate isn't changing and never will!" Of course, when record heat waves strike again and again, they whine about "liberals being surprised it's hot in the summer." Typical hypocrisy...
Well, that settles it, because I know for a fact that EVERY single AGW true believer can define the difference quite clearly. NOT!
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Originally Posted by Rambler123
They think that if predictive models aren't completely accurate, all the data should be ignored. In short, climate change doesn't exist because the climate models didn't predict how much rain we got this morning or some drek... that same logic would lead a person to ignore an F5 tornado warning for his subdivision because the morning news only stated "strong thunderstorms with possible deadly tornadoes" vs. "An F5 tornado will form at 4:33 PM with windspeeds of 303 mph and travel up oak street."
Test and retest and compare and learn. That is science. But to leap to conclusions based upon questionable premises .... well now, just exactly who is to be questioned.
One example is the old AGW climatologist claims regarding hurricanes after Katrina. NONE of their predictions came true!
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Originally Posted by Rambler123
They think that humans can't change the climate - while ignoring things like the Dust Bowl that prove we can, and then try to turn the story upside down and claim, "Well even if the climate is changing - which it isn't - we can't do anything about it." Just more copping out and denial while failing to realize just how vulnerable our civilization is to climate change.
No... deniers won't accept climate change unless the models predict the daily weather 50 years out and they get a certificate that assures them that they will always have enough cheap gas to fill up their Hummers... because, you know. fossil fuels are apparently unlimited in supply, too...
So you think humans CAN change the climate? We are SO great, SO powerful, that we are damn near the Almighty force of nature? Puleeze!
Folks like you are no different than those medieval Christians who proclaimed that Man was the center of God's creation, and all else was subject to us.
I love seeing the similarities among fundamentalists of ALL skins, and the AGW crowd are fundamentalists, plain and simple!
How many physicists are in this "overall scientific community?"
Um, the Heritage Foundation is Left-Wing.
Since you apparently just arrived on Earth yesterday, I'll take pity and bring you up to speed on Reality and History.
There was a big war and it was a mess, so the Germans bought train tickets for these two guys in Paris, named Lenin and Trotsky. Lenin and Trotsky rode the train to Moscow and started a civil war to overthrow the monarchy. The big war was less of a mess, since Russia was no longer it, but Russia was a mess.
Then Lenin got mad at Trotsky and told Trotsky to GTFO.
So, Trotsky fled to Mexico City, Mexico.
Then, a bunch of university professors from the University of Chicago and Ivy League schools with names like these....
Abrahams
Abrahamson
Adams
Bachman
Baum
Baumann
Bieber
Blum
Blumenthal
Blumstein
Cohen
David
Fisher
Greenberg
Greenspan
Hayes
Herschel
Hirsch
Horowitz
Jordan
Kaminski
Kaufman
Klein
Kramer
Lehrer
Lowe
Meier
Meyer
Neuman
Novak
Nussbaum
Prinz
Reis
Reuter
Riese
Rosenberg
Rothenberg
Rothschild
Schwarz
Seidel
Seinfeld
Shapiro
Sherman
Siegel
Silverstein
Simon
Stein
Suess
Waldvogel
Wallach
Wang
Ward
Wexler
Wolff
Zimmermann
...went to visit Trotsky in his new villa, and brought him matzo balls as housewarming gifts.
With guidance from Trotsky, they started a ritzy club called the "Young People's Socialist League."
Then a Socialist like FDR got elected, and they all got jobs working in the US government.
And then the Young People's Socialist League merged with another political party called the Social Democrats.
Since Young People's Socialist League-Social Democrats is a mouthful, they shortened the name to YPSL-Social Democrats, and later YPSL-SD.
When the Red Scare started to get scary, they dropped the "Young People's Socialist League" part and just became Social Democrats.
After bankrupting the US with Johnson's Grotesque Society, they did an about face in the late 1960s.
So Irving Kristol and his son William Kirstol and Daniel Bell and Henry Kissinger and Gary Sick and Zbigniew Brzezinski and Paul Wolfowitz and Donald Rumsfeld and Douglas Feith and others re-tooled your entire Geo-Political Strategy.
They abandoned Southeast Asia and the Pacific Rim, switching to the Middle East/Central Asia/Eastern Russia, Kissinger sold out the Indians to the Chinese, almost starting WW III (just a few minutes away from that --- the closest you ever came) to get Nixon into China and then kicked Taiwan off of the UN Security Council and then booted Taiwan from the UN, replaced Taiwan with China, dumped the Gold Standard in favor of the Petro-Dollar, gave us the Carter Doctrine and an RDF to support it...
...and here we all are.
Irving Kristol's Two Cheers for Capitalism and Daniel Bell's Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism are seminal works for Socialists.....'cause, you know, they don't really like Capitalism.
Maybe when you quit wasting time on the internet, you'll take a few university classes in political science, at which point you'll discover the reality that Socialists and Communists tend to be very, very conservative.
The term "Neo-Conservative" was coined by the New York Times in an interview with Kristol sometime around 1976 (if I remember correctly), because he was interviewed in connection with his book, Two Cheers for Capitalism.
If you want to maintain the facade that the Heritage Foundation is "right-wing" and Neo-Conservatives are Republican, fine, but don't get mad when everyone who knows the truth laughs at you.
Politically scientific...
"A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
- Macbeth
OMG thats hilarious.
Just start with the post HeyJudes referencing.
The heritage foundation is left wing. Just....let that roll around in your mind for a few.
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