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I have said repeatedly that I am not an Obama supporter.
This isn't about dissenting POV's or how much money either party raises legally. Its about both parties misusing exempt organizations to illegally fund political activities and remain anonymous while doing so and getting rewarded for their illegal activities with tax breaks.
Don't try to distort the issue.
What is your point anyway? That democrats raise more money legally so Republicans should be able to raise money illegally to offset that? That's nuts.
If it was illegal you think Eric "Tyrant" Holder wouldn't be prosecuting them right and left?
What you call legal amounts to this:
Because much of that money comes in donations below the $200 threshold for itemized disclosure, the total amount given by donors via ActBlue is considerably greater than the totals listed below, which are based on FEC filings of candidates and committees that receive this money.
That's "legal" and still fits your definition of what makes you irate.
If what they did was illegal the IRS wouldn't have needed to drown them out with attrition and TIGTA wouldn't have backed up the assertions of the targeting and attrition. Not to mention the SCOTUS ruling that it's not illegal. Do you have some sort of extra legality clause or standard you're using or are you basing your opinion on emotions?
If it was illegal you think Eric "Tyrant" Holder wouldn't be prosecuting them right and left?
What you call legal amounts to this:
Because much of that money comes in donations below the $200 threshold for itemized disclosure, the total amount given by donors via ActBlue is considerably greater than the totals listed below, which are based on FEC filings of candidates and committees that receive this money.
That's "legal" and still fits your definition of what makes you irate.
If what they did was illegal the IRS wouldn't have needed to drown them out with attrition and TIGTA wouldn't have backed up the assertions of the targeting and attrition. Not to mention the SCOTUS ruling that it's not illegal. Do you have some sort of extra legality clause or standard you're using or are you basing your opinion on emotions?
The TIGTA report did not say the exempt orgs in question were legal. He simply said they couldn't be singled out based on party affiliation or terms expressing religious/political values for review. The report didn't say they couldn't all be audited just that objective criteria had to be used to subject them to audit or additional scrutiny before they were approved as exempt orgs in this case.
The SCOTUS ruling didn't say any of these orgs were legit. Its up to IRS to determine that. Simply said corps could contribute to them. That didn't change the way these orgs are supposed to operate in order to legally have this status. Their time is supposed to be devoted primarily to social welfare.
That is not what is happening. Many of them are devoted most of their time to campaign activity. That is illegal. The IRS needs to audit all of them never mind which party and put and end to that abuse. Congress will never allow that.......watch and see. They will call it targeting no matter how IRS goes about it.
But lets get real. Does anyone seriously believe that large corporations want to anonymously give money to social welfare causes? Huge unlimited amounts of money for which they get no credit?
That silly just on the face of it. No. They want to be able to funnel large amounts of money to the candidates/party of their choice anonymously. I doubt if most Americans understood that's what is happening that they want that to be happening.
Its bad enough all our politicians are bought and sold. We should at least know who is buying and selling them.
Any information you've posted about legal campaign contributions is irrelevant. Apples and oranges.
Yep. They have decided on the outcome they want. Now they are in search of a reason. That is the purpose of all of these bogus investigations. They want desperately to impeach him for something. It doesn't matter what, anything will do.
And yet, all their bogus witch hunts have turned up nothing credible. So sad.
What you people don't get is that only republican presidents can do bad stuff. The cd idiots that defend obama tell us much about themselves and their hypocrisy. The will forgive the obamas any sin. It simply doesn't matter to them. A loathsome bunch all.
This is not about free speech. This is about corporations being allowed to anonymously pour money into exempt organizations who by law are supposed to be engaged primarily in social welfare causes.
Instead, many of these so called exempt organizations are abusing the law and engaging primarily in political activity.
Those engaged in political activity should be required to(and are in fact are required by law) to register as a different type of exempt org where the donors(i.e. large corps and the wealthy) are identified to the public....not anonymous.
Like I said, exercise your free speech politically all you want. But if your goal is to influence votes either left or right, stand up and do it in the light of day as the law requires. Don't use my tax money to cower in anonymity.
You don't get it. No surprise. Most low information voters don't. The mess at the IRS is bad; but the real scandal is that they are not auditing these abusive organizations. And Congress' dirty little secret on both sides is that they don't want them to.
That is BS. The Tea Party groups are mostly local groups supported with $25 donations. They meet in small groups of 10-20 people. You are being brainwashed and you don't know it. This is absolutely about free speech!
That is BS. The Tea Party groups are mostly local groups supported with $25 donations. They meet in small groups of 10-20 people. You are being brainwashed and you don't know it. This is absolutely about free speech!
No brainwashing. More and more political money is residing in these types of groups on both sides.
BTW this is not a new problem. Its been an area of tax abuse for decades.
Size of the org has nothing to do with anything. The issue is whether or not they are primarily involved in social welfare or political activity. Do you really think that the interests that want large corporations to be able to donate anonymously to these orgs went to the Supreme Court so large corps can send $25 donations to support local issues in Podunk Town, Any State? BS.........they aren't sending donation to the local garden clubs. They are sending donations to organizations with the sole intent of driving election results.....on both sides. If you believe otherwise, you are really naïve.
No brainwashing. More and more political money is residing in these types of groups on both sides.
BTW this is not a new problem. Its been an area of tax abuse for decades.
Size of the org has nothing to do with anything. The issue is whether or not they are primarily involved in social welfare or political activity. Do you really think that the interests that want large corporations to be able to donate anonymously to these orgs went to the Supreme Court so large corps can send $25 donations to support local issues in Podunk Town, Any State? BS.........they aren't sending donation to the local garden clubs. They are sending donations to organizations with the sole intent of driving election results.....on both sides. If you believe otherwise, you are really naïve.
Most of the Tea Party organizations denied the Tax exempt status ARE small groups in Podunk Town, Any State. Can you get that through your thick skull?
Most of the Tea Party organizations denied the Tax exempt status ARE small groups in Podunk Town, Any State. Can you get that through your thick skull?
Specifically, which tea party group was actually denied tax exempt status?
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