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Trouble trouble. This bunch at the IRS needs to be in a prison in my opinion.
Agreed. Claiming the dog ate my emails, is lame. There are bureaucrats needing to serve prison terms, and politicians who need to be impeached, at a minimum, for this.
AHAHAHAHAHA, you had to go look because you have no clue. The law in question that the IRS is bound to is for ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS not file share data or database records. That's what we are talking about here. They were archiving their EMAIL. I SERIOUSLY doubt that the IRS gave a 3rd party access to their proprietary data such as database records of civilian tax records or personnel records. I work in IT, that is RARELY if EVER done with a 3rd party. Email is because the IRS most likely uses a cloud service for email to begin with like Office 365. Databases and file shares are RARELY if at all served from the cloud by a 3rd party.
You would be wrong. The IRS in the past has contracted out Collection work to outside contractors. Congress required them to test it. So, while that involved people accessing tax data and making a phone call as opposed to fiddling with the data on their mainframe, its the same principle. They killed the test because the private contractor wasn't collecting as much money as their own employees were.
The IRS uses lockbox operations at banks to collect tax payments which are accompanied by the related form containing taxpayer info.
They do and have used 3rd parties giving them access to their systems and tax data. The 3rd parties are bound by the same privacy laws as IRS.
Whatever Sonasoft’s obligations after the contract was terminated, it’s clear that the company had a relevant contractual obligation to the IRS at the time of the supposed email loss. There seems to be no question that Sonasoft’s knowledge of the email “catastrophe” needs to be investigated.
But there’s more to this drama – and it’s (go figure) political. Sonasoft is a small company, founded and run in Silicon Valley by a Mr. Nand (Andy) Khanna. It isn’t clear whether Andy Khanna is any relation to Rohit (Ro) Khanna, a Pennsylvania-born attorney who served as an Obama appointee in the U.S. Department of Commerce, and is now a Democratic candidate for the House of Representatives in the 17th district of California (in Silicon Valley). But what is clear is that the two other members of Sonasoft’s board of directors – the members other than Andy Khanna – are both working hard to get Ro Khanna elected.
Here are the players. On the Sonasoft board of directors, Dr. Romesh K. Japra, M.D., is the chairman of the board. The board director is Mr. Romi Randhawa, whose day job is president and CEO of HPM Networks, another Silicon Valley IT company.
And then there’s Ro Khanna. Khanna has connections to Obama that go way back, to Obama’s first run for the Illinois state senate, when Khanna was at the University of Chicago as an undergrad. Will Burns, a Chicago Democratic political operative, recruited Khanna to walk precincts with Obama during the campaign, and Khanna was reportedly star-struck …
I hope the GOP learns their lesson from this. I hope the next Republican president uses the precedents set by Obama and uses the IRS to destroy his Democrat enemies.
Well this is exactly why the democrats are being so bold about this sort of thing nowadays....they feel pretty confident that there won't be another republican president in the foreseeable future.
That's correct we don't yet have any idea what service this company provided the IRS.
We can speculate and/or jump to conclusions, but we don't know.
Notice, the people who "broke" this news item, were not willing to state for a fact that this company had anything to do with IRS email. They don't know either.
What this company did or that company didn't or that banana tasted like or his hat looked like is all GARBAGE, it is deflecting nonsense from trolls and pr flacks trying to defend the indefensible.
The IRS is a federal agency REQUIRED under statute to retain copies of their correspondence for at least seven years. Second, to pretend that the hard drives were also somehow magically damaged when a PC goes down is laughable nonsense, they are completely non-credible.
Any servers in between the IRS and whoever they sent/received their emails from would also have back-ups. This is basic networking, and as someone who's worked with computers since the early 70s, I can only laugh at the BS they are spewing at the wall hoping some will stick, or that they are so arrogant they just don't care if no one believes them as they see themselves as all-powerful and untouchable.
A weak, unprofessional president/community activist who spends all of his time campaigning because he has no clue how to lead or govern, no doubt appreciates the useful idiots of this country, few as there are left as affirmed by his polling numbers, running interference for him. Just pretend your an illegal alien; he'll be sure to send you lots of freebies.
Did they subpoena Sonasoft to find out what exactly they archived and where it is?
Not to my knowledge. They were briefed in private before the hearing by the IRS CIO so apparently between the testimony and that briefing they must believe there is no basis for subpoena.
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