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Old 06-21-2014, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I have to wonder just how much Sonasoft donated to Obama's campaign.
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Old 06-21-2014, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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What else would you suggest they do?
Call in the head of IT and a couple of Senior Network Admins, people who know specifically how things work, to explain how the systems and backups work. Complete with diagrams and charts. Question them as to why what the IRS claims is or is not likely.

Should be pretty easy to do. However, one must be willing to ask the questions of the right people, not just call in the head of the IRS, who probably doesnt know jack about whats going on at the workstations and servers and backup/maintenance anyway.

PS When the head of the IRS says the drives crashed and were destroyed, ask who told him that and haul that person in to talk about it. Until they get down to the person who actually did the deed. Require the naming of names.
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Old 06-22-2014, 04:43 AM
 
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Call in the head of IT and a couple of Senior Network Admins, people who know specifically how things work, to explain how the systems and backups work. Complete with diagrams and charts. Question them as to why what the IRS claims is or is not likely.
I'm sure they will, they just found about this one week ago. You work your way down the ladder in an investigation because then you can pin down the testimony of the top people, they don't have a chance to change their testimony based on what others have testified too. If the IT guy comes in and says something completey different that what Koskinen testified too he has some explaining to do.
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Old 06-22-2014, 04:59 AM
 
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I use a cloud based data backup service.

I'm certain that the IRS does too.

We all know that the missing emails implicate the White House.

Funny how lefties claim to believe in science and technology, yet are so willing to believe that these emails were destroyed.

Not to mention the fact that your emails aren't just stored on your hard drive.
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Old 06-22-2014, 05:08 AM
 
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>>>>>Valerie Jarrett. That ghost-like puppeteer.
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:11 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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Ah yes. Backup! On my way out of a state department to go work for another I totally rewrote and updated an operations and training manual of about 200 pages for a major program. Months after I had moved-on I was called by that department and asked whatever happened to what I wrote. I explained that I had given it to my boss, who left several months after I did, in both hard copy and floppy disk (this was back in the dark ages). Another couple of months went by and I was called again; this time demanding that I produce my work. I patiently explained that I had no reason to retain a copy as I no longer worked for them and suggested they contact their own IT section as it was supposed to be backing-up all our work. Thereafter there was dead silence but my sense of it is that they never found it. End of story! But that's the way government agencies seem to roll.

Sometimes it can be real "convenient!"
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:16 AM
 
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Ah yes. Backup! On my way out of a state department to go work for another I totally rewrote and updated an operations and training manual of about 200 pages for a major program. Months after I had moved-on I was called by that department and asked whatever happened to what I wrote. I explained that I had given it to my boss, who left several months after I did, in both hard copy and floppy disk (this was back in the dark ages). Another couple of months went by and I was called again; this time demanding that I produce my work. I patiently explained that I had no reason to retain a copy as I no longer worked for them and suggested they contact their own IT section as it was supposed to be backing-up all our work. Thereafter there was dead silence but my sense of it is that they never found it. End of story! But that's the way government agencies seem to roll.

Sometimes it can be real "convenient!"
Nice story but, it doesn't apply here.
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This is the IRS. Everyone else has to save 7 years of data but they don't.
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:24 AM
 
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WOW...I figured the lefties would be all over this saying it does not matter....or another fake scandal....or something blah blah blah...to that extent....

Wonder why they are so silent in this thread?

I mean the hard drive is gone...that's what they said...so it must be true.....
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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WOW...I figured the lefties would be all over this saying it does not matter....or another fake scandal....or something blah blah blah...to that extent....

Wonder why they are so silent in this thread?

I mean the hard drive is gone...that's what they said...so it must be true.....
The hard drive is really secondary to all this.
They recycled the backup tapes is a more important issue.
Such a short retention period for the IRS data ?

That should be the issue, not the hard drive.
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