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Old 06-25-2014, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Don't say "scientists", say "some scientists". Because some scientists believe that most extreme weather events will be fewer.

Here Comes the Story of No Hurricanes | Mother Jones

Scientists: Climate Change May Offer Hurricane Help


The basic idea is that, extreme weather comes from cool air slamming against warm air. The larger the temperature difference between the equator and the poles, the more extreme weather you should have. Global warming doesn't affect the equator nearly as much as it does high latitudes. Which means the temperature difference between the higher latitudes and the equator will be become smaller. Which should mean less severe weather.

You are linking to websites that are notoriously biased towards global-warming hysteria. You should really look for less biased opinions and data to support your argument.

 
Old 06-25-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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In all honesty, the goals of some of these AGW obsessed people, could only come into fruition if the population of the Earth was reduced to only a few million people, and we lived like primitive tribal people. And I'm not even sure that would make them happy. Because there wouldn't be protections for any "endangered species".
This is where the beast lives for all of you people, isn't it. This is what makes you DENY. That you won't be able to flaunt the F350 Duallie. I don't know what good the thing will do you when the military requisitions civilian gasoline stockpiles. Peak OIl has NOTHING to do with AGW but... if we migrate transportation to an all electric infrastructure, you will have something to drive in 25 years and, possibly a stable economic climate to drive it in. Fight it, and you will have the truck, but won't be able to perform enough sex acts on enlisted personnel to keep the tank filled. Nor will it even be safe for you to go outdoors, think Iraq.
 
Old 06-25-2014, 02:45 PM
 
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This is where the beast lives for all of you people, isn't it. This is what makes you DENY. That you won't be able to flaunt the F350 Duallie. I don't know what good the thing will do you when the military requisitions civilian gasoline stockpiles. Peak OIl has NOTHING to do with AGW but... if we migrate transportation to an all electric infrastructure, you will have something to drive in 25 years and, possibly a stable economic climate to drive it in. Fight it, and you will have the truck, but won't be able to perform enough sex acts on enlisted personnel to keep the tank filled. Nor will it even be safe for you to go outdoors, think Iraq.
oh please, oil isnt going to run out anytime soon. and even if is does, so what, i will start making my own fuel, and use a solar still to do it with. a little tuning her and there and my cars will run just fine on ethanol.
 
Old 06-25-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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extinct as a species in 100 years. ROFL!
...and he claims he is one of the smart ones. ROFLMAO
 
Old 06-25-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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oh please, oil isnt going to run out anytime soon. and even if is does, so what, i will start making my own fuel, and use a solar still to do it with. a little tuning her and there and my cars will run just fine on ethanol.
LOL. Just wait until you need goods that require oil to either be made or that make the components that make the goods you want.

I'd venture to guess that would be 85%, or more, of the things you use each day.
 
Old 06-25-2014, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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No, the AGW alarmists are overly concerned with CO2, you know, the stuff that plants require.

I want reductions in things like CO, NOx and NH3.

I don't want taxes and carbon credits that allow the rich to get away with buying pollution.

I want the world to set hard limits for countries, not setting limits in order to transfer wealth.

I want the AGW crowd to take a firm stand on people flying on private jets before they come after guys driving a pickup trucks.

I want the AGW crowd to address all of the new computers and phones being consumed before they talk about increasing ethanol use.

I want real pollution being addressed and real steps being taken instead of demanding change that is really geared at wealth redistribution.
I agree, this is a problem it is the EXACT same problem that caused the disaster known as Obamacare. We should NEVER have attempted to reform healthcare using Capitalist models of premiums and deductibles, etc. Democrats did so because that's what (they thought) Americans would understand and embrace. They were wrong. Similarly they were wrong to attempt to fix AGW by a probram of Carbon Credits. They did this in order to make the program attractive to the Capitalist mindset. You can't carrot polluters you have to stick them! But you clearly have your axes to grind. Al Gore and his private jet is stuck sideways in your craw and you obsess over that and don't see that a quarter million pick-up trucks have got to have a bigger impact on the environment than even 1,000 corporate jets. Let's get real here. What's wrong with some wealth redistribution the right way? What kind of wealth redistribution do you think is going on in the environmental sector???? Quantitative easing is pulling wealth out of the middle class faster and more efficiently than any maount of AGW legislation would or could. Get real. It's not the way I would do it. I'd simply tell the polluters what the caps are and call it very good. But I don't see that your way accomplishes anything.
 
Old 06-25-2014, 02:58 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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How many nails need to pull out of your deck before you get concerned that the thing will fall down some Saturday and kill someone? Maybe several someones. Maybe even someone (several someones) you care about?! LOTS of people have deck failures and nearly all of them had some warning the damn thing was coming apart. We are just so d*amn procrastinatory, its really a problem.

What are the problems... well... um... oranges, limes, grapefruits... anything citrus... they can no longer be grown in America because the climate has changed and promotes the growth of a disease organism. Several variety of wine grape can no longer be grown in regions that they have thrived in for generations. Good Lord, do you need to wait until POTATOES can't grow before you think that there is a problem? OK, FIHE you go wait but you might be altered to the fact that something is really wrong when the fire-fights start breaking out at the food markets. Some of us don't want to wait until then. Can you get your head around that?

H
So much overheated rhetoric.

So much hysteria.

So little proof.

 
Old 06-25-2014, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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oh please, oil isnt going to run out anytime soon. and even if is does, so what, i will start making my own fuel, and use a solar still to do it with. a little tuning her and there and my cars will run just fine on ethanol.
LONG before oil runs out, it will become expensive. That is worse in many ways than simply running out. And, no, you will not be making ethanol on any menaingful level nor will you be able to re-program your EMC to run your trucks on 100% ethanol. Just stop.
 
Old 06-25-2014, 03:02 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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You think the only vehicle emissions are CO2? How odd.

Without pollinators agriculture collapses...I thought everyone knew this.
the OP failed to link bee issues with vehicle emissions.
 
Old 06-25-2014, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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The OP is an easier read if you play carnival themed calliope music in the background.
Ridicule and/or death threats. They are the direct proof that you have hit your enemies where they live and they take you seriously. Thank you for validating my efforts here.
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