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We really couldn't care less about what those outside of the US think of our constitution loving American citizens.
Dems should stay out of republican primaries and vise versa.
Again - MS has an *open* primary. Their entire purpose is to encourage some cross-over voting, to ensure that neither extreme rightists and extreme leftists don't win primaries.
I don't like open primaries myself, just because of this kind of result, but it is how MS does things.
Obviously, anyone who voted in both primaries should have their votes thrown out, since that is not allowed.
If MS Rs are really upset about this, the law can always be changed.
And dependent on enough useful dupes believing it was a real grassroots movement about small government, and not the ploy by big monied interests that it truly is, in order to be successful.
Says the dupe who swallowed the Democrat "astroturf" rhetoric without question.
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And many dupes happily jumped aboard. Not because they truly wanted "smaller government" because that might cut into their entitlements, but because it gave them a platform to rant about all those "others" who were ruining America for wanting the same kind of entitlements they themselves were enjoying.
It's a great thing that we have HeyJude around to explain the motivations of millions of people. It's a wonder that he isn't a world famous psychic by now, since he knows what other people are thinking better than they do.
That is like Republicans doing a write in for Mickey Mouse on the democratic ticket and voting Mickey Mouse in.
The democrats want to manipulate the Republican primaries.. they voted against the tea party candidate on the ticket by voting for his non tea party opponent. Kind of sleazy manipulative voting.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is sleazy and manipulative. Encouraging cross-over voting in the primaries is exactly what open systems are designed to do.
One of the great mysteries in politics is why so many blacks continue to support the far left wing Democrat party that has done such a great disservice to blacks since LBJ's Great Society program. We've spent billions in the decades since then without moving the needle on poverty. It's quite sad really that the far left wing that has overtaken this country is oblivious to that reality.
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Keep it up, Dave. This is the kind of thing that will help the Democratic Party maintain our strong majority support in the communities you consider mysterious and stupid.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is sleazy and manipulative. Encouraging cross-over voting in the primaries is exactly what open systems are designed to do.
We know why they are voting out the tea party candidate. They are not going to vote in the opponent , they will vote for the democratic ticket ..that is why it is manipulative and sleazy.
It's a great thing that we have HeyJude around to explain the motivations of millions of people. It's a wonder that he isn't a world famous psychic by now, since he knows what other people are thinking better than they do.
As this article well illustrates, the Tea Party is nothing but a reactionary, racist and repugnant, national disgrace for the USA.
The Tea Party is a movement of the downwardly mobile white middle class. That is not to say all white middle class people share Tea Party sentiments. It is simply to say that Tea Party politics reflect the frustrations, fears and prejudices of that once stable, once relatively prosperous group, which is now is rapidly losing economic ground. Although the Tea Party has not become a full-blown fascist formation yet, fascism was a movement of exactly the same social class. Very worrying.
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You and the dopey headline writer don't understand what happened in the Mississippi R primary.
I'm well aware of what happened in the Mississippi primary because I, a white voter, made it a personal point to go out and vote against Chris McDaniel in the runoff. Here's my experience:
Living in Mississippi, there is no real Democratic option. The resume of the Democratic candidate and his platform will read almost identically to that of any moderate Republican... Opposes Obamacare, everyone old enough to carry a pacifier should also have a holstered weapon, "pro-life" (unless it's the death penalty we're talking about), and so on an so forth. Thad Cochran's platform? Well, he's been a Senator since the Nixon era and though he's a Republican, he's one of the few moderates left in a party of increasing lunacy and extremism. Maybe he's not the greatest senator ever but he's not the worst either.
Now, Mississippi is truly a Red State if ever there was one. It's no big surprise or secret. And the Tea Party's brand of "conservatism" has taken a pretty strong hold here. So, when Chris McDaniel came along, I think a lot of Democratic voters, black voters, and the like all kind of gave a collective groan and said "Well, we're already the fattest, dumbest, state in the nation. What do you expect when it comes to our representation?" And, so, none of us showed up at the polls during that first primary election because we figured it was a lost cause.
Then, something amazing happened. Somehow, some way, a virtual tie happened and there was going to be a runoff. I have to admit, I barely even paid attention to this battle of Republicans until that point. Then, the robocalls started, and the door-to-door salesman, and the constant TV ads. And, in one of those TV ads, Chris McDaniel was avidly talking about how he wanted to push for forced prayer in school - something I view as a personal affront to every child's 1st Amendment Right - and something the Supreme Court continues to champion as an affront to the 1st Amendment.
That's when I decided that since I hadn't voted in the Democratic primary because I knew my vote was "red" anyway, that I was going to go out to do my civic duty in laying whatever roadblock I could in front of the McDaniel victory party. Meanwhile, Thad Cochran did the smart thing. He basically told the black voters they were hosed (which really is true) if they let McDaniel in as a Senator. And why shouldn't the black voters have believed that? It's not like the Tea Party has been very focused on the black vote in any way whatsoever since its inception.
So, what you had was a bunch of traditionally voting Democrats so enthused about screwing over a radical right-winger that we all showed up to the polls. For once, in a very long time, the black minorities felt like they had a critical voice in an election. Democrats, a political minority in Mississippi, felt the exact same way. For once, our vote actually mattered. Truly mattered. So, there were a number of us... Blacks, atheists, liberals, and so on who showed up to let our voice count.
And now the Tea Party is so upset about it because for all of their unfair tactics in the past few years, they finally got a taste of their own medicine. And, unfortunately, it tasted like the sweet freedom of a black man voting against a white man in a traditionally racist state. I think it's the first time I've ever been proud to say I live here since I moved here 7 years ago.
If you Americans had more of a clue about politics in general there would be no dispute about what and who the tea party represents. It's nothing new in the least and has been used successfully many times during the last century, especially in Europe to fool the people as to it's real aims. It's interesting to note that almost every extreme right movement began as a populist movement that was opposed to oligarchy, oversized and overbearing government and was, so they stated a movement dedicated to liberty and freedom. The two best examples are the Fascists in Italy and the Nazi movement in Germany. Mussolini was an out and out socialist until he sold his soul to the 1%. The same thing with Hitler. Both of these leaders would never have come to power at all if they stated their intensions in the first place. It takes lots of money to fund a political movement and experience shows clearly that "The piper calls the tune" to one degree or another. "Just follow the Money" if you really want to know the aims of the Tea Party. When the likes of the Kochs are major contributers, you know full well the aims are anti labour, anti environment and all in all a return to the good old days of the gilded age. The problem is that those good old days were only good for a very small % of Americans and were especially bad for a large % of the population. It's nothing more than a regressive, reactionary, anti progress, anti intellectual and truly repugnant movement.
The good old days were limited to the magical 1 percent? Not by a long shot. Has our economy improved under the redistribution of wealth? massive government programs? massive government spending?. Where is the growth? What social ills are being fixed? poverty at an all time high despite 50 years of failed great society programs...we would have been better off doing nothing.
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