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Old 06-30-2014, 03:11 PM
 
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Why are you repeating yourself? Shouting the same thing over doesn't make you suddenly right....
shouting? lol Oh, the drama lol
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Old 06-30-2014, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Do you have a business? Do you consider all businesses equal?
No and no.

What does this have to do with anything?

Corporations/businesses aren't people.
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Old 06-30-2014, 04:16 PM
 
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No and no.

What does this have to do with anything?

Corporations/businesses aren't people.
Then what makes you an expert? What rights do you have to say "just increase" and what that increase will cover? You are nothing but a monday morning quarterback who couldn't even start your own business and then has the nerve to think you have the right to tell others how to run theirs.

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I'm not so sure. Raising minimum wage doesn't necessitate raising prices to match. Just increase the cost of goods by 5-10 cents, maybe 25 cents and that will more than cover the difference. No need to go increasing things by 1-2 dollars just because minimum wage is $10-12.
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Old 06-30-2014, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Then what makes you an expert?
Never alluded to the fact that I was one. Why are you putting words in my mouth?

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What rights do you have to say "just increase" and what that increase will cover?
US Constitution and Bill of Rights grant me the rights to say whatever I want, when I want. Specifically, the ToS I've agreed to on this forum also grant me the right to say what I want when I want so long as I don't breech the ToS on here. I've also mentioned that I forgot where I read it, but the compelling argument I read for raising minimum wage also notes the fact that all the prices would have to raise is 5 cents to cover everything that's needed to be covered. Google is your friend, you know?

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You are nothing but a monday morning quarterback who couldn't even start your own business and then has the nerve to think you have the right to tell others how to run theirs.
Nope. I'm a Veteran of the United States Navy and a Game Developer who right now has no aspirations to start my own business. Here you go putting words in my mouth again because I *never* alluded to having any sort of right to tell you or others how to run their businesses. If you read my posts you would understand this.

Now if you were a CEO of your business? I'd be VERY afraid of how you're running it. Maybe you ought to step down and let someone who knows what they're doing take over and save what shoddy company you have before it's too late!
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Old 06-30-2014, 10:04 PM
 
Location: southern california
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not so losers in this society feel they are entitled to everything free and everything first class.
most envy what i got none what i had to do it get it.
joni mitchell sings it best
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:39 AM
 
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i don't think the problem is the middle class or the upper class, i feel the problem is the complaining of the lower class wanting to make middle class wages but still too stupid or lazy to justify higher wages. give me something for nothing redistribute the wealth
Yep and the "leaders" of our nation have convinced the weak minded that it's the rich guys fault. Never mind that NOTHING happens in this country without a politician behind it.

Start putting your anger where it belongs. ON THE GOVERNMENT. Not the citizens.

And spare me the "b...buu...but the rich own the government" bullshirt.

If a politician wasn't standing there with his hand out, the rich guy would have no more say than you or I. All of us, rich and poor and everyone in between simply work within the rules set by our gov't. (see the first sentence of this paragraph)
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The Pitchforks Are Coming



This guy gets it. The capitalists bemoan the rising trend towards socialism, yet fail to see that our capitalist system has been increasingly benefitting them but failing the middle class and below. As a result people demand a change to that which isn't working for them. If you don't want to move to a socialist system, you better make sure everyone benefits from capitalism. As it stands, this is not occurring. Executive pay goes up and up, benefitting from increased worker productivity. But the workers, the middle class on which our society depends, sees stagnate wages, or pay cuts or even job losses as a result. Hell, the CEO will outright cut jobs to give himself a bonus. People are fed up!

Hanauer also makes a very good point in the documentary, Inequality For All.

Definitely belongs on the Netflix queue.
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:50 AM
 
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I read somewhere that all we would have to do is raise prices by 5 cents...5 cents! To cover the minimum wage claim. God forbid people actually WANT to work for $9-$10/hr right off the bat.

That gets more money flowing in the economy and gets people spending more money. How is this a bad thing?

It isn't.
It wouldn't be a "bad thing" if it were even REMOTELY true. 5 cents? LOL Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? 5 cents?

I saw that bogus claim somewhere as well. Obviously written by some leftist moron with an axe to grind. Unfortunately, mindless minions read things like that and run off believing it.

Sigh.....unfortunately, that's what passes for our "media" reporting now adays. No wonder we have a community organizer that never ran so much as a lemonade stand in his life, running our country into the ground.

Keep lapping it up.
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:51 AM
 
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Yep and the "leaders" of our nation have convinced the weak minded that it's the rich guys fault. Never mind that NOTHING happens in this country without a politician behind it.

Start putting your anger where it belongs. ON THE GOVERNMENT. Not the citizens.

And spare me the "b...buu...but the rich own the government" bullshirt.

If a politician wasn't standing there with his hand out, the rich guy would have no more say than you or I. All of us, rich and poor and everyone in between simply work within the rules set by our gov't. (see the first sentence of this paragraph)

How come it is the consumers fault for the plethora of cheap Chinese Crap in this country and not the Bankers and Corporate Lobbyists that lobbied for disastrous trade pacts and yet it is the politicians fault for selling influence that get readily lapped up by the rich?

The rich are the majors consumers of political influence. Cut the money off and maybe politicians would have to start serving the whole country instead of an elect few.
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yep and the "leaders" of our nation have convinced the weak minded that it's the rich guys fault. Never mind that NOTHING happens in this country without a politician behind it.
And who might be pulling the politicians' strings? Guys like you and me? Or those with the resources to buy armies of lawyers and lobbyists to influence every move their bought and paid for politicians make?

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Start putting your anger where it belongs. ON THE GOVERNMENT. Not the citizens.

And spare me the "b...buu...but the rich own the government" bullshirt.

If a politician wasn't standing there with his hand out, the rich guy would have no more say than you or I. All of us, rich and poor and everyone in between simply work within the rules set by our gov't. (see the first sentence of this paragraph)
And once the present politicians are out of office, the money interests will be there to corrupt whoever takes their place.
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