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However, the ignorant fools at Hobby Lobby need to take a human fetal development class so they can understand that life does not begin at conception. It doesn't even say that in the bible.
Lol....so the court should have simply decided to disregard Constitutional rights because acknowledging them would cause further ramifications?
Is this seriously your position?
I was responding to your previously posted flawed analogy, not to how to do a proper constitutional analysis. You asked if a person runs into a crowd of people injuring many whose fault is it. My response was simply that this decision was not a sudden ill thought out outcome, but one of reflection and analysis.
To read into what I wrote as "disregard [of] Constitutional rights because acknowledging them would cause further ramifications" is reading into my words an interpretation that does not exist. Much like the Roberts Court did in the Hobby Lobby decision regarding the RFRA.
I was responding to your previously posted flawed analogy, not to how to do a proper constitutional analysis. You asked if a person runs into a crowd of people injuring many whose fault is it. My response was simply that this decision was not a sudden ill thought out outcome, but one of reflection and analysis.
if he had planned it the lawyers are still going to swarm. Whose fault is that?
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To read into what I wrote as "disregard [of] Constitutional rights because acknowledging them would cause further ramifications" is reading into my words an interpretation that does not exist. Much like the Roberts Court did in the Hobby Lobby decision regarding the RFRA.
However, the ignorant fools at Hobby Lobby need to take a human fetal development class so they can understand that life does not begin at conception. It doesn't even say that in the bible.
Everyone draws the line for when they think life begins. At some point, everyone decides for themselves when that lump of cells is an actual developing human being.
So tell us, when do you think the developing baby is an actual person. I'll guarantee you that whatever your answer is, someone else will call you an ignorant fool who needs go back to biology class.
I was taught, long before Roe v, Wade made it an issue, that life began at conception. Amazing how liberals ignore basic scientific facts.
They go by court rulings and what the government says.
Life can't begin at conception because of abortion.
So life "begins" when the government says it begins making abortion a legal way to get rid of a "non human" blob.
Everyone draws the line for when they think life begins. At some point, everyone decides for themselves when that lump of cells is an actual developing human being.
So tell us, when do you think the developing baby is an actual person. I'll guarantee you that whatever your answer is, someone else will call you an ignorant fool who needs go back to biology class.
That's the uncomfortable question that everyone has to answer if they have an opinion on the matter; the question is essentially "at what point of development do you believe it's no longer ethical for the mother to kill her unborn child?" Drawing that line shows where you believe it becomes a human being with its own rights, which is why the question is often deflected and the answer becomes "that's the mother's decision."
This is good, but it doesn't make up for the punishing of small businesses being forced to bake a cake or photograph a wedding that is against their religious beliefs.
I'm surprised the decision went this way, religious freedom has been under attack.
HL does cover standard contraception, for bc and for other medical problems, and tubals and vasectomies. A lot of people don't seem to understand this, as they are arguing that women don't have access to bc here and they do. If they choose IUD or morning after pill, they can still have them, they just won't be covered by the employer. The MA pill is available OTC so probably not covered under insurance anyway. The $35 for the pill is less than my co-payment for one doctor's office visit. It is emergency contraception so not for regular use, and pretty darn cheap compared to most medications that people need for medical conditions.
That's the uncomfortable question that everyone has to answer if they have an opinion on the matter; the question is essentially "at what point of development do you believe it's no longer ethical for the mother to kill her unborn child?" Drawing that line shows where you believe it becomes a human being with its own rights, which is why the question is often deflected and the answer becomes "that's the mother's decision."
It also depends on the circumstances.
Our laws are wishy washy.
A pregnant woman at any stage can get benefits for 2 people.
Kill a pregnant woman at any stage and you get charged with 2 murders.
But abortion..well it's not really a human until "xxx weeks".
That's the uncomfortable question that everyone has to answer if they have an opinion on the matter; the question is essentially "at what point of development do you believe it's no longer ethical for the mother to kill her unborn child?" Drawing that line shows where you believe it becomes a human being with its own rights, which is why the question is often deflected and the answer becomes "that's the mother's decision."
To some people, it's seven or so months old, when the fetus/baby can survive out of the womb.
To others it's after the second trimester, when pregnancy loss is statistically uncommon, and if the baby is not aborted, it will go full term.
People on one extreme side of this issue view the embryo or even the zygote as a developing human being, and if everything goes alright it has the potential to go full term.
People on another extreme view a nine month old fetus as a non human, because it has not taken it's first breath of air. Even more extreme views of people, are that even immediately after birth, a baby is still not a human being with the right to life, if the mother still wants it dead.
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