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Old 12-17-2007, 01:05 PM
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Bush holds strong hand in Hill showdowns

It’s deal-making time again. And much to the chagrin of Democratic lawmakers, it looks like President Bush may well hold the upper hand. And that’s the verdict of Democrats who have been in the trenches for recent year-end showdowns between Congress and the White House. The Democratic endgame strategy on Iraq funding and appropriations has taken a few hits in recent weeks. When Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) made the first public move toward compromise on domestic appropriations bills by saying he’d meet the president halfway, Republicans seized on the comment, realizing that, in negotiations, the first one to make a public concession loses leverage. On Iraq, the Democratic message has been muddied by stunning admissions from Rep. John P. Murtha of Pennsylvania and other key Democrats who argue the surge is working militarily. And on the AMT fix, Democrats have backed themselves into a corner and realize they have to pass at least a small patch to the AMT, or millions of middle-class taxpayers will see a tax increase.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1207/7203.html
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Old 12-17-2007, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Boise
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The Iraqi army just today took over Basra from the British, now nine of the provinces in Iraq are ran by the Iraqi army, not the US or British. So Is Iraq headed in the right direction? I think the answer is "yes, finally."
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Old 12-17-2007, 03:57 PM
 
Location: San Antonio-Westover Hills
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Old 12-17-2007, 04:50 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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4 1/2 years after the end of major combat operations, mention of miitary progress but no mention of political progress, and people want to bow down to some sorry imitation of a conquering hero?

IMO this alleged leader was way too late in pressuring the Iraqis to take care of their end of things and still is, these slacker Iraqis take lenghthy vacations while Americans continue to work & die for them and this is progress?

Two words: Screw Iraq!

Just keep lowering the bar until you can reach it
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:16 PM
 
Location: wrong planet
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4 1/2 years after the end of major combat operations, mention of miitary progress but no mention of political progress, and people want to bow down to some sorry imitation of a conquering hero?

IMO this alleged leader was way too late in pressuring the Iraqis to take care of their end of things and still is, these slacker Iraqis take lenghthy vacations while Americans continue to work & die for them and this is progress?

Two words: Screw Iraq!

Just keep lowering the bar until you can reach it
The Bush cheerleading team is not known for high standards
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:35 PM
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4 1/2 years after the end of major combat operations, mention of miitary progress but no mention of political progress, and people want to bow down to some sorry imitation of a conquering hero?

IMO this alleged leader was way too late in pressuring the Iraqis to take care of their end of things and still is, these slacker Iraqis take lenghthy vacations while Americans continue to work & die for them and this is progress?

Two words: Screw Iraq!

Just keep lowering the bar until you can reach it
Tell that to Harry and Nancy. If they're still speaking...
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:36 PM
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The Bush cheerleading team is not known for high standards
While the Dems fume over the recent decline in US deaths.

Classy.
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:46 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Tell that to Harry and Nancy. If they're still speaking...


While conveniently forgetting the other perpetrators of this debacle?

I think Congress AND the entire Executive Branch should be taken out behind a woodshed and given a good A** whuppin'. They should all be ashamed of themselves for playing politics with peoples' lives.

Bush will veto a bill with a timetable and if that's what he's sent he whines that it's ALL Congress's fault. Congress caves when they should tell the liitle Shrub he's got the $$$$$$$$ to accomplish a planned withdrawal, if he fails to do so it's on him. I think they should all take a trip to a hot zone in Iraq so they can personally explain this all to the troops.

I invite everyone to join me in sending holiday greetings to their Congressmen and the White House and tell them they all behave worse than a bunch of damn spoiled five year olds.
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Old 12-17-2007, 06:47 PM
 
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While the Dems fume over the recent decline in US deaths.

Classy.


A decline from a height where it never should've been ain't exactly something to crow about.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:14 PM
 
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A decline from a height where it never should've been ain't exactly something to crow about.
What whining about it going to do?
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