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Old 06-30-2014, 11:23 AM
 
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Why is it acceptable to liberals for half of south america to invade the US by illegally sneaking into the country, stealing resources via loopholes from the white-majority US, like jobs from native-born, and money through remittances and welfare, food stamps, healthcare, etc., but if native-born americans try to stop this illegal invasion they are "racists"?

Why is it acceptable for arab muslims to ethnically cleanse their countries of non-muslims, but "racist" for americans to want to stop both legal and illegal immigration?

Why does china get a pass despite oppressing and murdering millions, subjugating and oppressing millions more - while so many on the far left only whine about what the US does?

Why does russia, despite having troops and subjugating 21 whole countries at one time, murdering millions and crushing millions more get a pass, but the US is vociferously attacked for freeing iraq from a monstrous dictator, and completely exited the country?

Why is it acceptable to liberals that the poor minorities of the 3rd world can move en masse to the West, fundamentally changing its culture, but if white Westerners move to the 3rd world, they need to be wholly subservient to the local customs, culture, government, etc.? For example, the liberal far left rails against white australians for conquering and oppressing the native aborigines, but are silent regarding how the arab muslims conquered and destroyed dozens of civilizations as it spread from the arabian peninsula.

Why is it acceptable that Israel was attacked in the UN, leftist news media, internet, etc., for killing 9 terrorists attempting to attack it on an illegal shipping convoy, but the far left is virtually silent as assad slaughters 150,000 in syria?

Why is it acceptable for iran to foment wars across the middle east, oppressing and murdering millions - when is the last time you saw an anti-iran protest by the far left - but the US is vilified at every turn?

Does the far left/liberals realize how incredibly non-credible and clueless they look?
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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They are trying to make this country a 3rd world nation so they can sleep better at night.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:41 AM
 
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Does the far left/liberals realize how incredibly non-credible and clueless they look?
I think you got it back asswards again. You are taking these opinions you have in your mind as "liberal" with no real clue even who holds these opinions, assigning it to everyone you seem to think of as "liberal," and finding this inconsistency. You are just cherry picking where these inconsistencies are only in your mind.

When in real life each person has a different opinion and not some monolithic hive mind where everyone has the same opinion...that seems to exist only in the strawman in your head. Instead of addressing this caricature in your head it would be better to talk to people to get their opinions and ideas. That would of course mean talking to an actual "liberal" or someone you disagree with.

It would break the long running theme of making caricatures of people you disagree with...like Libertarians, Muslims, illegals, and pretty well the rest of the population of the US. Then you might be able to say you have an idea what the hell is happening in reality instead of these elaborate fantasies.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:46 AM
 
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Why is it acceptable to liberals for half of south america to invade the US by illegally sneaking into the country, stealing resources via loopholes from the white-majority US, like jobs from native-born, and money through remittances and welfare, food stamps, healthcare, etc., but if native-born americans try to stop this illegal invasion they are "racists"?

Why is it acceptable for arab muslims to ethnically cleanse their countries of non-muslims, but "racist" for americans to want to stop both legal and illegal immigration?

Why does china get a pass despite oppressing and murdering millions, subjugating and oppressing millions more - while so many on the far left only whine about what the US does?

Why does russia, despite having troops and subjugating 21 whole countries at one time, murdering millions and crushing millions more get a pass, but the US is vociferously attacked for freeing iraq from a monstrous dictator, and completely exited the country?

Why is it acceptable to liberals that the poor minorities of the 3rd world can move en masse to the West, fundamentally changing its culture, but if white Westerners move to the 3rd world, they need to be wholly subservient to the local customs, culture, government, etc.? For example, the liberal far left rails against white australians for conquering and oppressing the native aborigines, but are silent regarding how the arab muslims conquered and destroyed dozens of civilizations as it spread from the arabian peninsula.

Why is it acceptable that Israel was attacked in the UN, leftist news media, internet, etc., for killing 9 terrorists attempting to attack it on an illegal shipping convoy, but the far left is virtually silent as assad slaughters 150,000 in syria?

Why is it acceptable for iran to foment wars across the middle east, oppressing and murdering millions - when is the last time you saw an anti-iran protest by the far left - but the US is vilified at every turn?

Does the far left/liberals realize how incredibly non-credible and clueless they look?
I think you meant Central America, not South America. Not everything that is south of the US is called South America.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:46 AM
 
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I think you got it back asswards again. You are taking these opinions you have in your mind as "liberal" with no real clue even who holds these opinions, assigning it to everyone you seem to think of as "liberal," and finding this inconsistency. You are just cherry picking where these inconsistencies are only in your mind.

When in real life each person has a different opinion and not some monolithic hive mind where everyone has the same opinion...that seems to exist only in the strawman in your head. Instead of addressing this caricature in your head it would be better to talk to people to get their opinions and ideas. That would of course mean talking to an actual "liberal" or someone you disagree with.

It would break the long running theme of making caricatures of people you disagree with...like Libertarians, Muslims, illegals, and pretty well the rest of the population of the US. Then you might be able to say you have an idea what the hell is happening in reality instead of these elaborate fantasies.
Nonsense.

It is a fact that most of the MSM news media is pretty far left, and that there are large numbers of not-very-bright people and groups who follow like sheep every word and position that comes out of the mouth of dirtbags like rachel maddow.

When I see the MSM news as aggressively attack the arab muslims for their relentless, mindless, boundless terrorism as we see them attack Israel for building apartments, THEN your statement might be worth something.

A good example is watching the liberals rail about global warming claiming the value of the scientific evidence, then turnaround completely to discredit any science that supports the safe nature of GMO foods.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:48 AM
 
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Why does china get a pass despite oppressing and murdering millions, subjugating and oppressing millions more - while so many on the far left only whine about what the US does?
Yeah, the whole "Free Tibet" movement was run by right-wing conservatives...

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Why is it acceptable for iran to foment wars across the middle east, oppressing and murdering millions - when is the last time you saw an anti-iran protest by the far left - but the US is vilified at every turn?
Which wars has Iran formented? They've supported their players just as other regional actors have, but I can't think of any wars that they've directly started or countries they've invaded...unlike some other countries.

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Why is it acceptable that Israel was attacked in the UN, leftist news media, internet, etc., for killing 9 terrorists attempting to attack it on an illegal shipping convoy, but the far left is virtually silent as assad slaughters 150,000 in syria?
I've heard a range of opinions on what if anything the US should do in Syria and they don't seem to be beholden to one side of the political spectrum. Opinions on Israel are a completely separate issue and not everyone on the "left" criticizes Israel for everything or is not a supporter of Israel.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:52 AM
 
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Yeah, the whole "Free Tibet" movement was run by right-wing conservatives...
The boat attack against Israel was on the cover of the NY Times for longer than World War 2, yet we see barely a peep about assad's mass slaughter of syrians.

Please show evidence where the "free tibet" movement, where millions of people are being utterly crushed, has received the same attention and effort as Israel's settlements, or the US invasion of iraq. Show me where the liberals have raged against russia for its recent invasion/imperialistic conquest of Ukraine, or Iran's continued oppression/subjugation of lebanon, iraq, syria and itself. How come we've never seen an anti-iran demonstration in a major city near you?
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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Nonsense.

It is a fact that most of the MSM news media is pretty far left, and that there are large numbers of not-very-bright people and groups who follow like sheep every word and position that comes out of the mouth of dirtbags like rachel maddow.

When I see the MSM news as aggressively attack the arab muslims for their relentless, mindless, boundless terrorism as we see them attack Israel for building apartments, THEN your statement might be worth something.

A good example is watching the liberals rail about global warming claiming the value of the scientific evidence, then turnaround completely to discredit any science that supports the safe nature of GMO foods.
Try again. I refuse to accept premise that GMO food is dangerous because the only studies out there are incredibly flawed.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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The boat attack against Israel was on the cover of the NY Times for longer than World War 2, yet we see barely a peep about assad's mass slaughter of syrians.

Please show evidence where the "free tibet" movement, where millions of people are being utterly crushed, has received the same attention and effort as Israel's settlements, or the US invasion of iraq. Show me where the liberals have raged against russia for its recent invasion/imperialistic conquest of Ukraine, or Iran's continued oppression/subjugation of lebanon, iraq, syria and itself. How come we've never seen an anti-iran demonstration in a major city near you?
You wanted an example of people in the US opposing Chinese policy right? I gave you one... You're just running in circles with a circular argument.

Why aren't rightwingers protesting against Russia or Iran? I've never seen any protests for either in the US by anyone... My guess is that US citizens(on all sides of the policital spectrum) might protest against US policy as a way making an impact, but there's little use in protests on the streets of a US city against a foreign dictatorship that cares little about what people here might think...
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Why is it acceptable to liberals for half of south america to invade the US by illegally sneaking into the country, stealing resources via loopholes from the white-majority US, like jobs from native-born, and money through remittances and welfare, food stamps, healthcare, etc., but if native-born americans try to stop this illegal invasion they are "racists"?

Why is it acceptable for arab muslims to ethnically cleanse their countries of non-muslims, but "racist" for americans to want to stop both legal and illegal immigration?

Why does china get a pass despite oppressing and murdering millions, subjugating and oppressing millions more - while so many on the far left only whine about what the US does?

Why does russia, despite having troops and subjugating 21 whole countries at one time, murdering millions and crushing millions more get a pass, but the US is vociferously attacked for freeing iraq from a monstrous dictator, and completely exited the country?

Why is it acceptable to liberals that the poor minorities of the 3rd world can move en masse to the West, fundamentally changing its culture, but if white Westerners move to the 3rd world, they need to be wholly subservient to the local customs, culture, government, etc.? For example, the liberal far left rails against white australians for conquering and oppressing the native aborigines, but are silent regarding how the arab muslims conquered and destroyed dozens of civilizations as it spread from the arabian peninsula.

Why is it acceptable that Israel was attacked in the UN, leftist news media, internet, etc., for killing 9 terrorists attempting to attack it on an illegal shipping convoy, but the far left is virtually silent as assad slaughters 150,000 in syria?

Why is it acceptable for iran to foment wars across the middle east, oppressing and murdering millions - when is the last time you saw an anti-iran protest by the far left - but the US is vilified at every turn?

Does the far left/liberals realize how incredibly non-credible and clueless they look?
Your whole post just shows how incredibly clueless and non-credible Conservatives are. Half of South America is coming to our country? Really? Please show us a link to this and all your other nonsense you spouted.
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