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Old 12-11-2007, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Originally Posted by IMMATE 13 View Post
I Strongly Suggest That Drugs Should Not Be Legal In The United States. I Mean Who Are You Kidding "we" Are Already Corrupted Enough As It Is Why Throw More At It. Damaging The Earth With "our" Ignorant Ways.
That argument fails in the fact that a great deal of us have more self control than to say "Oh, this is legal, so I have to do it!"

Smoking is legal. I don't smoke.
Wasting my money on junk is legal. I tend not to do this often.
Air gliding is legal. You won't catch me doing it.

In life, there are many things that are "unhealthy" or "unsafe" - marijuana being one of them. Saying that the temptation will corrupt everyone is fallacy.

Personally, I say - make it legal and collect tax on it. Then again, as soon as something is permitted by the government, it's no longer "cool".

 
Old 12-11-2007, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The question is just how far is the government supposed to go in protecting mankind from itself?
 
Old 12-11-2007, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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The question is just how far is the government supposed to go in protecting mankind from itself?
Well, apparently, they're supposed to coddle us from birth to grave - giving incentives for us to rely on the milk from their bosom.

Right now, you get jailed and fined (incl. court costs)- only about half actually pay the full amount. That also doesn't pay for the Officer's time, the cost of sheltering in jail, all of the clerk's wages... The general public pays for these criminals everyday.

Let's save money by making it legal to buy and tax it. More Revenue.
 
Old 12-11-2007, 05:03 PM
 
Location: The People's Republic of Cork
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Well, apparently, they're supposed to coddle us from birth to grave - giving incentives for us to rely on the milk from their bosom.

Right now, you get jailed and fined (incl. court costs)- only about half actually pay the full amount. That also doesn't pay for the Officer's time, the cost of sheltering in jail, all of the clerk's wages... The general public pays for these criminals everyday.

Let's save money by making it legal to buy and tax it. More Revenue.
If I could vote for you in 2008, you'd have my vote!
 
Old 12-11-2007, 05:13 PM
 
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Thumbs up Why not?

I say legalize it, like they did alcohol, then our local and state governments could collect taxes on it. People will drink themselves into oblivion whether it is legal or not so they will keep doing the same thing with weed. Making it legal will regulate how and where it can be bought and the traffic from and through Mexico and the rest of the southern western hemisphere will dry up when people won't have to pay high prices for "illegal" weed.
 
Old 12-11-2007, 05:45 PM
Status: "Bountiful pine needle harvest" (set 20 days ago)
 
Location: Near Manito
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I just want to hear more about that bosom/milk thing. I feel stirrings of socialism.
 
Old 12-12-2007, 02:54 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Whether or not anyone THINKS it should be legal or illegal is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that potheads are too lazy to organize themselves and work to get legislation passed!

Pothead 1: "Hey man, it's like 2:00 in the afternoon, weren't we supposed to be at that Senator dude's office at like 9:00 AM?"

Pothead 2: "That's like so totally too early..."

Pothead 1: "Why were we going there again?"

Pothead 2: "*Pufffffffffff* Who cares...let's watch Spaceballs again..."
It's not just "potheads" who want it legalized. Legalizing a drug takes it off the black market, which lowers crime and violence by removing the profit motive for drug dealers (you'll have legit corporations selling pot, regulated by the FDA).

I'd like to see the same thing done for ALL drugs. Legalize and regulate them. Put drug dealers out of business, permanently. Then use that all the money we save in the failing, wasteful "War on Drugs", plus the money we make on taxation, and use it to provide education and treatment.

This would have a cascading affect on our prison system, as well. No more non-violent drug users would be thrown into our overcrowded prisons. We can use those prisons to hold real criminals (like child molesters), again.
 
Old 12-12-2007, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Re: Recreational Drugs –

Our current system is just a puritanical absurdity that makes a few criminals very wealthy while giving the government an illusion of control and making a joke of the law.

Legalize, regulate quality and tax the trade just enough to maximize revenue but not enough to develop illegal sources. Just like alcohol, tobacco and gambling.
Many addictable people will suffer but they are or will be suffering anyway
 
Old 12-12-2007, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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This would have a cascading affect on our prison system, as well. No more non-violent drug users would be thrown into our overcrowded prisons. We can use those prisons to hold real criminals (like child molesters), again.
Very well said. My sentiments exactly.

In the end, the people who use drugs as a crutch will do so no matter the illegality of it. Some people turn to alcohol, some turn to online forums, some turn to video games, some to excercise, some turn to food, some to god, and there's many more things out there to use a crutch to get you through.

Here's the benefits of legalizing:

- Hospitals and doctors would see less cases of tainted drugs
- farmers would have crops that are good for soil
- If nationwide, the gov't could outdeal the black market and demolish a sector of it
- Many shootings and murders in America are the direct result of drug deals gone wrong. Those numbers would decrease very quickly.
- Tax dollars!
 
Old 12-12-2007, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Very well said. My sentiments exactly.

In the end, the people who use drugs as a crutch will do so no matter the illegality of it. Some people turn to alcohol, some turn to online forums, some turn to video games, some to excercise, some turn to food, some to god, and there's many more things out there to use a crutch to get you through.

Here's the benefits of legalizing:

- Hospitals and doctors would see less cases of tainted drugs
- farmers would have crops that are good for soil
- If nationwide, the gov't could outdeal the black market and demolish a sector of it
- Many shootings and murders in America are the direct result of drug deals gone wrong. Those numbers would decrease very quickly.
- Tax dollars!
Not only that, more people would submit themselves to treatment because they would not be admitting to criminal behavior.
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