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Old 07-21-2014, 06:43 AM
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One can only estimate, meaning one does not know for sure. My point is if you don't know for sure, then you can't honestly say that illegal immigrants outnumber Hispanics.
Holy Cow batman maybe its a tie... maybe there are only 30 million or 60 million or the ridiculous low #11 million illegals.... Nearly every hispanic i get in earshot of is speaking spanish and the smart money says most likely illegal. So 90%?? ... Thats my estimate, 90%... What border?
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:07 AM
 
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That doesn't mean some don't approve of illegal aliens, it means those polled do. All Hispanics are not the same. They actually have a brain and not all of them walk in lockstep. Most blacks voted for Obama, not all blacks voted for Obama. People have different opinions on any number of issues and polls are a reflection, not an absolute.
I didn't say that. I said the majority. You do know what majority means don't you? It's not just the polls that prove that out. I gave you a couple of other examples also.
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:19 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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If it was a crises the Congress would have given it to him in a second
Not so much... Remember when Reid and the Dems shut down the federal government last year over an appropriations dispute (Constitutionally, appropriation bills must originate in the House, Senator Reid refused to cooperate)?
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Not so much... Remember when Reid and the Dems shut down the federal government last year over an appropriations dispute (Constitutionally, appropriation bills must originate in the House, Senator Reid refused to cooperate)?
Yes, I am talking about the same House. If this is a crises, why aren't they funding the efforts to fix it. It's a simple question.
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:41 AM
 
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Yes, I am talking about the same House. If this is a crises, why aren't they funding the efforts to fix it. It's a simple question.
Since appropriations bills must originate in the House, the branch of Congress closest to the American people, they are understandably loathe to confiscate additional money from American taxpayers to fund immigrants illegally flooding the border because of a tyrant's (Obama) Executive Order.
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"An executive order by President Barack Obama allows those who entered the country illegally as children to remain and work without fear of deportation for at least two years."
Undocumented immigrants line up for relief from deportation - CNN.com
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes, I am talking about the same House. If this is a crises, why aren't they funding the efforts to fix it. It's a simple question.
HHS had their budget more than doubled in FY2014 specifically because of increased illegal minors.
And the number that came is still under projections.

So why the need for $3.7 billion if FY2014 budgets got more then doubled because they projected this surge ?
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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HHS had their budget more than doubled in FY2014 specifically because of increased illegal minors.
And the number that came is still under projections.

So why the need for $3.7 billion if FY2014 budgets got more then doubled because they projected this surge ?
Meanwhile our vets sit at the VA looking around for a doctor. Just pure insanity going on.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Meanwhile our vets sit at the VA looking around for a doctor. Just pure insanity going on.
The USG is not being truthful about this (like that's any surprise).
And no one in Congress is coming back to say .."Hey, we gave you extra money in your budgets because you projected this surge"

Not a one.

Border Patrol charts show a 1200% rise in illegal minors from Guatemala since 2009.
HHS budget went from $37x million to over $870 million.

They knew this was coming.
What they didn't expect was the Black Friday Walmart parking lot surge when the doors opened.
So they lack the shelters but they have the money as it was given to them in their FY2014 budgets.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Since appropriations bills must originate in the House, the branch of Congress closest to the American people, they are understandably loathe to confiscate additional money from American taxpayers to fund immigrants illegally flooding the border because of a tyrant's (Obama) Executive Order.
So, we have a crises, and they refuse to fix it.

This is exactly why I said it is a crises only because people are being told it is a crises. In other words it is a fake crises, aka political BS, and people will parrot "this is a crises" until there is something better to talk about.

If it was a true crises, all branches of the government would spare no resource to combat it.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Florida
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HHS had their budget more than doubled in FY2014 specifically because of increased illegal minors.
And the number that came is still under projections.

So why the need for $3.7 billion if FY2014 budgets got more then doubled because they projected this surge ?
Why, because we have a "CRISES" (), or so they want you to believe.
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