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Old 07-10-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I guess I'm in line with several others to call bulls**** on that one.
I notice he hasn't come back to justify his reasoning.
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Old 07-10-2014, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The Intercept story raises the specter that the government has resumed wiretapping civil society organizations representing minorities, just as it did when it surveilled African-American groups under COINTELPRO."
Exactly.....and that's what's scary.


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I'd rather Muslims **** and moan about this than me...
Yeah, well, it just might be you soon enough.

"...the government has resumed wiretapping 3rd Party political groups, just as it did when it surveilled African-American groups under COINTELPRO."


Intercepting....


Mircea
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:59 PM
 
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TRY to argue this.....

To Arabic-speaking people, sharia (shariah, shari'a, sharīʿah; Arabic: شريعة‎ šarīʿah, IPA: [ʃaˈriːʕa], "legislation"),[1] also known as Qānūn-e Islāmī (قانون اسلامی), means the moral code and religious law of a prophetic religion.[2][3] In English usage, the term "sharia" has been largely identified with Islam.[4]

Sharia (Islamic law) deals with many topics addressed by secular law, including crime, politics, and economics, as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, hygiene, diet, prayer, everyday etiquette and fasting. Adherence to Islamic law has served as one of the distinguishing characteristics of the Muslim faith historically, and through the centuries Muslims have devoted much scholarly time and effort on its elaboration.[5] Human interpretations of sharia (fiqh) vary between Islamic sects and respective schools of jurisprudence, yet in its strictest and most historically coherent definition, sharia is considered the infallible law of God.[6]
Sharia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Examples of Sharia Law:
*Sharia discriminates against women (and Muslim women specifically): compared to feminist victories elsewhere, women are still not considered equal in most Islamic settings. A woman's testimony is worthy half a man's in Islam.
*Sharia discriminates against children. Not only does it affect children when they are young, but the implications will last their entire life. Top of the list is child marriage. Under Sharia law, a girl is eligible for marriage as soon as a girl begins her first period
* Sharia discriminates against homosexuals. On this particular issue, Islam, as well as Christianity and Judaism, hold the same intolerant view. Homosexuality is forbidden in most Islamic states with punishments ranging from a fine or public flogging to life imprisonment. Ten Islamic states impose a death penalty for homosexuals, including Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi-Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Yemen and some states in Malaysia. In 2011, governmental driven gangs have been killing gays across Iraq.
*Sharia discriminates against non-Muslims, including other sects within Islam such as Bahia's, Ahmadia's, and Shia if under Sunni ruling government or the reverse. Under Sharia law, no one is allowed to force someone to convert to Islam, however, someone who is born into an Islamic family will grow up with extreme social pressure from their family. If this person wishes to convert to another religion or be an atheist, they are often considered an apostate, which can be punishable by death.
*Sharia discriminates against non-believers, atheists and apostates. Did you know that free thinking and freedom of speech are a crime punishable by death, public flogging and imprisonment in the 21st century?
*Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death.
* Islam orders death for Muslim and possible death for non—Muslim critics of Muhammad and the Quran and even sharia itself.
*Islam commands offensive and aggressive and unjust jihad.

1) If anyone of you think that these extremists have not already landed here and have started the jihad aimed at America, I pity you.
2) Muslims in England have already got control to make Sharia Law supersede England's law.
3) Name one country that is majority Muslim that has NOT been at war for hundreds of years.
4) If anyone of you find what I listed acceptable or can justify it, get the @@@@ out of my America.
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Old 07-10-2014, 07:26 PM
 
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TRY to argue this.....
What are we suppose to be arguing? That it's a good thing we are losing our rights because you are scared?
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Old 07-10-2014, 07:47 PM
 
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*Sharia discriminates against non-Muslims, including other sects within Islam such as Bahia's, Ahmadia's, and Shia if under Sunni ruling government or the reverse. Under Sharia law, no one is allowed to force someone to convert to Islam, however, someone who is born into an Islamic family will grow up with extreme social pressure from their family. If this person wishes to convert to another religion or be an atheist, they are often considered an apostate, which can be punishable by death.

*Sharia discriminates against non-believers, atheists and apostates. Did you know that free thinking and freedom of speech are a crime punishable by death, public flogging and imprisonment in the 21st century?
If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. (Deut. 13:6-11)


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*Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death.
Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself."

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the *****, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire."

Hell, if a women touches another man in defense of her husband she suffers:

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."

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*Islam commands offensive and aggressive and unjust jihad.
How many Muslims in the world? How many members of Al Qaeda?
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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According to Capt. Took-too-many-Trips, sharia is "largely identified" with Islam--by English speakers. Well who could argue with a source like that?

Sharia is not one of the Five Pillars of Islam. In any language. QED.
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:30 PM
 
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If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. (Deut. 13:6-11)




Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself."

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the *****, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire."

Hell, if a women touches another man in defense of her husband she suffers:

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."


How many Muslims in the world? How many members of Al Qaeda?
We are not Jews living in the Old Testament days... last I checked... The penalties for the laws do not apply. However, these actions of adultery should be avoided.

The Proverbs 6 verse above just shows that you don't know what you are posting.
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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Sorry folks....By definition you can not be a Muslim and an American.
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I'd rather Muslims **** and moan about this than me and my family blowing up thanks to some jihadis
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I have no problem with this. In fact, it is reassuring to know that they are keeping an eye on Muslims in the US. History has proven that they can be far from what they appear to be.
I'm shocked the CD Konservative Klan Korps is out defending bigotry.
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Old 07-11-2014, 04:56 AM
 
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I'm shocked the CD Konservative Klan Korps is out defending bigotry.
Very telling isn't it?
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Old 07-11-2014, 05:33 AM
 
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Another whistleblower higher up the food chain, said most of this is already known and doesn't include the real 'secret' stuff.

And what have we really learned except the govt spys on all of us including themselves? Nothing.... Hoover did this to anyone he thought worth the expense... govts throughout history have done it... and always to maintain control of the herd of sheep which we are until we learn to become shepherds for our own souls.
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