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Old 07-10-2014, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Florida
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There is a lot of talk about nothing being done about illegal immigration, but it seems like there is a serious effort to fix the issues, but Congress refuses to act. What is their excuse to rant and rave on TV every day blaming everyone else for not doing anything when the ball is on their court.

According to the polls 80% of Americans wants Congress to act, so what it their excuse?

Here are some of the bills, some introduced by GOP, and some by Dems, and many have bipartisan support.



H.R. 15, the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act

A modified version of S. 744, a major immigration bill passed by the Senate on June 27, 2013, H.R. 15 is a comprehensive bill addressing border security, a path to citizenship for the undocumented, interior enforcement, visa backlogs, higher and lower skilled work visas, visa backlog reduction, family visas, and the immigration courts, among other issues. See Guide to H.R. 15.

H.R. 3163, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America’s Security and Prosperity Act of 2013 (CIR ASAP)

A comprehensive bill addressing border security, enforcement, employment verification, visa backlog reduction, STEM visa increases, and citizenship for the undocumented, among other issues, with more generous benefits and fewer punitive proposals.


H.R. 435, the Military Enlistment Opportunity Act of 2013

Would allow certain undocumented immigrants to obtain legal status through military service, including beneficiaries of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program


H.R. 2377, the Encourage New Legalized Immigrants to Start Training Act (ENLIST Act)

Would allow certain undocumented immigrants who entered the U.S. as children to obtain legal status through military service.


H.R. 4303, the Border Enforcement Accountability, Oversight, and Community Engagement Act of 2014

Establishes a border oversight commission and border ombudsman charged with overseeing border enforcement and protecting human rights

H.R. 3431, the American Families United Act

Amends the current immigration system to allow legalization of some of the undocumented and address the separation of immigrants from U.S. family members. No new paths to legal status are created.





 
Old 07-10-2014, 07:22 AM
 
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There is no reform being proposed. It's amnesty. Fool me once like in 1986 and......
 
Old 07-10-2014, 07:27 AM
 
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What makes you think that those bills are going to fix the problem?

Here's an "immigration reform" that's already on the books.....we are a sovereign nation. We have borders which, by law, must be protected.

Protect the border. Round up and deport those who are here illegally, whether they walked across the border or overstayed their visa's.

Easy peasy.

Oh..."what about the children!" The leftie rally cry.
 
Old 07-10-2014, 07:27 AM
 
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The current law is not broken. The issue is the president and the Democrats refuses to enforce the law, which has nothing to do with the Congress.
 
Old 07-10-2014, 07:31 AM
 
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There is no reform being proposed. It's amnesty. Fool me once like in 1986 and......
The reform includes border security. Reagan's amnesty was amnesty, because it simply legalized illegals already in the country, but the current proposal would require 13 years of jumping through the hoops before made legal. Besides, from what I have read the Dems have said they would talk about a reform which did not include path to citizenship.
 
Old 07-10-2014, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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We need executive reform - they don't enforce current law.
 
Old 07-10-2014, 07:38 AM
 
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The reform includes border security. Reagan's amnesty was amnesty, because it simply legalized illegals already in the country, but the current proposal would require 13 years of jumping through the hoops before made legal. Besides, from what I have read the Dems have said they would talk about a reform which did not include path to citizenship.
Don't be so naive. 13 years of jumping through hoops? That about the time a legal immigrant gets his legal residency, and you need add 5 more years to get citizenship. Hell, it took me 12 years and I was on the fastest track.

OK, let's assume that is true to become a citizen. What about the time to become legal resident? As soon as they become legal residents, they are entitled to everything except for voting. If we are giving legal residency to the illegals, that's amnesty as most legal immigrants would wait for 10+ years just to get the residency.

By the way, there has always been a path to citizenship: go home and apply for legal immigration like every other legal immigrant!!!

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Old 07-10-2014, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The Partnership for a New American Economy, the Business Roundtable and the National Association of Manufacturers are releasing a new poll today on immigration reform. A national poll of 1000 likely voters plus polls in 26 states of 500-855 likely voters conducted by a GOP firm, Harper Polling, found high support even among Republicans for immigration reform. The findings, provided to Right Turn, suggest the anti-immigration forces are loud but in the distinct minority. (States surveyed were Arkansas, Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Mississippi, Minnesota, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin.)


The survey of likely voters finds, for example, that the vast majority of voters believe the system is in need of fixing. 86% of Republicans believe Congress should take action

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/07/09/immigration-polling-tells-congress-to-act/
 
Old 07-10-2014, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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All our immigration "reform" bills are nothing more than amnesty and expansion of foreign workers.
Border security never happens. Hasn't in 50 years.
We have more illegals now in the US than ever before.

You're fooling yourself if you believe we can control the southern border.
 
Old 07-10-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
There is a lot of talk about nothing being done about illegal immigration, but it seems like there is a serious effort to fix the issues, but Congress refuses to act. What is their excuse to rant and rave on TV every day blaming everyone else for not doing anything when the ball is on their court.

According to the polls 80% of Americans wants Congress to act, so what it their excuse?

Here are some of the bills, some introduced by GOP, and some by Dems, and many have bipartisan support.



H.R. 15, the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act

A modified version of S. 744, a major immigration bill passed by the Senate on June 27, 2013, H.R. 15 is a comprehensive bill addressing border security, a path to citizenship for the undocumented, interior enforcement, visa backlogs, higher and lower skilled work visas, visa backlog reduction, family visas, and the immigration courts, among other issues. See Guide to H.R. 15.

H.R. 3163, the Comprehensive Immigration Reform for Americaís Security and Prosperity Act of 2013 (CIR ASAP)

A comprehensive bill addressing border security, enforcement, employment verification, visa backlog reduction, STEM visa increases, and citizenship for the undocumented, among other issues, with more generous benefits and fewer punitive proposals.


H.R. 435, the Military Enlistment Opportunity Act of 2013

Would allow certain undocumented immigrants to obtain legal status through military service, including beneficiaries of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program


H.R. 2377, the Encourage New Legalized Immigrants to Start Training Act (ENLIST Act)

Would allow certain undocumented immigrants who entered the U.S. as children to obtain legal status through military service.


H.R. 4303, the Border Enforcement Accountability, Oversight, and Community Engagement Act of 2014

Establishes a border oversight commission and border ombudsman charged with overseeing border enforcement and protecting human rights

H.R. 3431, the American Families United Act

Amends the current immigration system to allow legalization of some of the undocumented and address the separation of immigrants from U.S. family members. No new paths to legal status are created.





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