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Old 07-15-2014, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mwruckman View Post
They *must of* thought the American people were pretty stupid. You know what they were RIGHT!!!!
Thank you for proving the point by putting yourself up as an example.

Old 07-15-2014, 07:22 PM
Location: Annandale, VA
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Being able to read a teleprompter does not make one smart. Barack is a mushmouth when he has to think on his feet. He is nothing but the product of affirmitive action and handlers.
Old 07-16-2014, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Donn2390 View Post
obama isn't even in the running...
Why? Because he black?
Old 07-16-2014, 01:53 PM
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By the way some of you all talk, it sounds as if some of your parents/grandparents did a good job of instilling white superiority/supremacy in your heads. Some of those same paents/grandparents probably were some of the same people who were for segregation and against equality for all NOT just for one particular group. HATERS
Old 07-16-2014, 03:27 PM
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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This is the question:

Who is the smartest U.S. President of all Time? Obama?

So, this thread is about which President is the smartest, not the best executive, best orator, etc. Smartest. That is a very difficult thing to figure out. For historical figures who lived before the time of IQ tests, people have used a variety of criteria to come to the conclusion that Mozart, Beethoven, and Freud were geniuses.

My opinion is that Jefferson's writings exhibit a superior intellect. Monroe was a driving force behind the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, so he gets high marks. Lincoln wrote his own speeches. His writing gets him in the club too. I'm not certain if Wilson get into the top ranks. Although the League of Nations was great thinking, he couldn't get the Senate to endorse it. He was a PhD and a University President, but degrees do not automatically make one smart. I don't think FDR's writings or speaking skills illustrate great intellect, but they do show great leadership, which is not the same thing. JFK was a speed reader. I think that quality often goes with a high IQ. I think Carter is very intelligent, even though his administration was a failure on many fronts. Bill Clinton is quite smart, but I don't think his brain measures up to those of Jefferson, Monroe, Lincoln, or Kennedy. While President Obama is an intelligent man, I would be surprised to find out his IQ was as high as Clinton's. Watching either Bush, Nixon, LBJ, Reagan, Eisenhower, or Truman cuts them all out of the running.

For simply being the smartest men to become President, I think Jefferson, Monroe, Lincoln and Kennedy are all in the running. Different experts would ranks them differently, but I think those 4 should be at the top of the list.

On the other hand, Teddy Roosevelt and George Washington are the only Presidents on this list:

GENIUSES IN HISTORY: Beethoven, Da Vinci, Mozart, Bach, Rossini, Paganini,William Blake, Van Gogh, Socrates, Joan Of Arc, Galileo, Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, William Shakespeare, Aldous Huxley, Madame Curie,* Albert Einstein, The Great Kat!
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Old 07-16-2014, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NativeSon504 View Post
Why? Because he black?
Old 07-16-2014, 04:28 PM
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Harvard law prof Laurence Tribe once said that Obama was one of the two brightest students he ever had, so I don't doubt his intelligence.

However we all know that there is a large dose of bs artistry in word-oriented fields such as law, history, literature, etc. By contrast, in engineering, when you indulge in bs, the bridge falls, the plane crashes, and the tunnel collapses. In other words you can't fake your way to being thought of as smart.

There have been two engineer presidents--Hoover and Carter. Ironically both were progressives (contrary to the stock Dem meme about Hoover). And both are often considered as failed presidents. There must be a lesson in there somewhere. Maybe that even smart people can be persuaded of dumb ideas.

BTW, Ahmadinejad (loony former president of Iran) was also trained as an engineer.
Old 07-16-2014, 04:29 PM
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC View Post
Oh good lord. Barack Obama is an idiot. He's not book smart. He's Affirmative Action smart. He's I-Got-Elected-Because-I'm-(Half)Black-Smart. He's the Anti-Bush Smart. He's the Bastard-Child-Of-Radicals-Smart. He's Pay-Millions-To- Hide-All-My-Records-Smart. He's Run-Everything-Through-A-Political Filter-Smart. He's Blame-Everyone-But-Me-Smart. He's Lead-From-Behind-Smart. He's Failed-Leader-Smart.

He's worthless in every sense of the word. The average Barnes and Noble consumer could run circles around Barack Hussein Obama.
I concur!
Old 07-16-2014, 04:36 PM
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Obama? LOL. No. He's not that stupid and would probably beat some of the most undistinguished intellects among the Presidents, but then so would George Duhbya Bush. Those two are an even match. But neither are great disciplined thinkers, either. There are books marts, street smarts, people smarts, common sense smarts. Obama would be more along the lines of suck up toady smart. The guy who's smart enough to be able to get you to use him and tell him what to do and go way farther that way then he'd ever hope to be able get on his own. We joke and call him a cretin or an imbecile or a stooge based on his effete behavior and idiotic decisions but he's only doing what he's being told to do. He's a bad person, though. Definitely.
Old 07-16-2014, 05:09 PM
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Default Smart ., Good question!

Originally Posted by Snowball7 View Post
"smartest" ? cannot be proven.
You have a point . You can be book smart, but not street smart. Obama is Book Smart, but not very street smart. We see the results today.

I think, Ron Reagan and Clinton has the talent of being both. The 2 men could appeal to the average guy and pull both sides together to get things done.

The other point is having the right people around you that can tell the President Good or Bad, in the decision process.

A true success of any President is the ability to reach out to your political foe!
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