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Old 07-15-2014, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Yea, it was a reply to what sounded like sarcasm, if it wasn't I stand corrected.

But back to the topic, many Americans expected Obama to be honest and keep his word about transparency in his administration.

It's easy to see that often times it is his supporters/ ex supporters that would be the most disappointed in his actions.
You have to know what transparency is to argue that the president has somehow not kept that promise.

IS there some direct situation we can point to where one administration was open and the other wasnt ?
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:46 PM
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But that's the point.

Further irony that early in the thread some of our resident far-left poo-poohed the whole thing because so few were protesting.

That's the key....despite all of this....his "core" lets him get away with it because they are blind out of party loyalty.

For every foaming at the mouth insane birther.....there is a doe-eyed fool rationalizing every corporatist, illegal vote pandering action he takes. Neither of course sees it.
There is another irony to this. One would think those who are right-wingers would be on the side of the protesters. Instead, more complaints about Black people.

And for those who are extremely loyal to their political party, you have those who stick with their candidate because they don't trust the other political party. That is a big part of what I see. While there are many who don't really approve of some things the President is doing, there is also a lack of trust for the Republican Party. It's a matter of "lesser of two evils".
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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Actually, this is how I see it. He isn't the first to pull for amnesty. Reagan did that in the 1980s. And it isn't just Chicago. What about New Orleans? What about Newark? What about Detroit, Oakland, St. Louis, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Memphis, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh,etc. The sad thing is, no President has really cared about the poor Black population living in ghettos. No one. I think what has disappointed many is that President Obama wasn't different from any other politician. Fact is, no one really cares about the poor Black population, neither Democrat or Republican.
That's about the gist of it.

What needs mentioning also is Illegals aren't going to live among the Elite, they're going into these impoverished neglected communities to compete with the same resources.

And that is wrong. It will only exacerbate problems already there.

The "Humanitarian" BS the Obama administration is spewing is just a smokescreen. It is not that deadly to live there in most places, these people survived there until now and traveled the length of a few of it's countries to get here.

They could have easily went to a Latin American, Spanish speaking, predominantly Catholic country with a similar culture just as easily , there is over 20 of them !!!!

These are opportunists looking to cash in with welfare and US freebies with their Anchor babies and sob stories.
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:49 PM
 
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That's about the gist of it.

What needs mentioning also is Illegals aren't going to live among the Elite, they're going into these impoverished neglected communities to compete with the same resources.

And that is wrong. It will only exacerbate problems already there.
Yep.

O is going to get a lot of people killed, mostly his most devoted Bots.

That's the way it always ends with Narcissists.
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:52 PM
 
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Lolz...complaining about conservatives not lifting a finger when the residents protesting in a ****hole neighborhood...walled off from the rest of the city, with murder rates 40x higher than the nice areas....have been living in a democratically controlled city since Al Capone was around.

And you want them to appeal to reps? Bwah hah hah hah. Reps don't ever win elections in Chicago.
I'm not complaining about anything.

No my point us that those residents could easily appeal to conservatives in the federal government, but they don't because they know conservatives don't give a damn.

They are appealing to the legislators that they feel might listen. Who might could be forced to take action.


They know congressional conservatives aren't going to lift a finger to help. They know no conservative who hopes to be president would lift a finger to help.


The only thing this story means for conservatives is a way to attack President Obama by saying see even some black people in a Chicago are upset with the president.

conservatives don't actually care about the issues thy are confronting. That is conservative cynicism.
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:55 PM
 
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You have to know what transparency is to argue that the president has somehow not kept that promise.

IS there some direct situation we can point to where one administration was open and the other wasnt ?
Now you ARE deflecting.

WE know what transparency is by Obama's definition now , don't we?

Why don't YOU name just 1 other president that made this a major theme for his election, name 1, other than Obama who LIED and said he would put things on C-Span for all to see.

I've listed MY very DIRECT example, cite yours.

Go ahead prove me wrong, IF you can.
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:05 PM
 
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Here you go, free shopping with tax payer paid EBT cards for violating the law.

Who says crime doesn't pay???

Money that SHOULD be spent in countless other ways helping America's citizens. Seems communities in need across this once Great Nation are no longer a priority to Obama.
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:42 PM
 
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I love how many people in this country think the Pres can wave a magic wand and cure all problems.


He sure can wave his "magic" pen and create them though.
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:53 PM
 
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Then why did you pick him over Hillary? But now all of the sudden she's the best thing since sliced bread.

Oh, and they attacked the Hillary\Bill camp as being racist any chance they could.

You should have elected Hillary in 2008 and given Obama 8 years to gain experience.

Instead, largely because he was hipper, younger and more charismatic....and lets not mince words...able to carry a huge chunk of the black vote pretty much due to his pigmentation...we got Obama instead of Hillary.

P.S. You can always protest vote 3rd party or just not vote if you are unhappy with the choices presented to you. For example, if you care strongly about environmental issues and were angry over Obama's appointment of the Monsanto CEO to head the FDA.....and still support him because the republicans would be worse....then you are rewarding bad behavior and getting milked for free. If you don't hold your candidates accountable you are part of the problem.





Now they get excited at the prospect of offering us their second choice.
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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"Obama experiment" = right-winger code for first black president

Cut to the chase, Bushbots.
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