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Old 07-18-2014, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Yup.

Considering that one way or another the shooting down of the plane, while horrifying, tragic, and despicable, is not an imminent threat to American national security in any way, shape, or form, and as of right now we really do not know who took the plane down, I don't want Obama to get on TV and assign blame or pledge to bomb the perpetrators back to the stone age.

Here, the slavering mad Obama-hating crowd demands his immediate action. If he did just that, he'd get criticized for being a warmonger trying to stir up trouble. Can't win with them.
Nobody has asked for immediate action: what has been said, Is his lack of caring or his attitude sucks. No one is asking him to go to war over this. I do think 2 issues in less than 24 hours is a bit scary. I think we should all be concerned about what is happening and be prepared for some tough times ahead. We neea strong leader; I don't think we have one right now.
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Old 07-18-2014, 05:59 AM
 
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When you are the President of the United States, appearances count. You don't necessarily have to say anything, but what you do after such an event is significant and resignates not only to Americans, but to countries around the world who look to the US for leadership. Appearing aloof and disengaged sends a signal, not only to Americans or our allies, but to our enemies as well.
If he hadn't said anything, how do you think that would have played? By apparently ignoring the situation, the Right would have still said 'aloof and detached'.

Face it, no matter what he does or does not do, he will be attacked for it.
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Pa
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If he hadn't said anything, how do you think that would have played? By apparently ignoring the situation, the Right would have still said 'aloof and detached'.

Face it, no matter what he does or does not do, he will be attacked for it.
Welcome to the big leagues. He wanted the job and now he has it. It kind of sucks when you're not playing golf or on vacation. I guess it sucks even more when you can't just blame GWB or congress.
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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What "free world"?

Barack was NEVER the leader of the free world. He is a bystander. He is a small man playing small ball. With all the crisis in the world, Barack is only concerned with issues like contraception, pay gaps, any other petty problems that should be delegated to others.
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:35 AM
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Then by all means, tell us very specifically, what Obama should have done. Try to avoid the pointless generalizations you've employed up until now. What exactly should he have done?
1. He should not have used the IRS to attack conservatives

2. He should not have used the NSA to spy on American citizens and intimidate journalists

3. He should not have run guns to Mexico

4. He was aware of problems at the VA, yet failed to address them

5. He should not have increased income taxes

6. He should not have expanded CO2 regulations through the EPA

7. He should not have started a war on coal

8. He should have allowed the Keystone pipeline

9. He should have expanded domestic energy exploration on federal lands

10. He should not have supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt

11. He should not have completely withdrawn from Iraq

12. He should not have advocated air support for the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria

13. He should have moved to make the Ukraine a NATO member after the ouster of thier president

14. He should have worked with NATO to supply missile batteries and military aid to the Ukraine

15. He should not have imported hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants

16. He should have enforced immigration laws and not declared he would not enforce them, thus inviting a flood of illegals.

17. He should have US forces on the Mexican border

18. He should not have endorsed/supported massive increases in federal spending

19. He should have (as promised) renegotiate/abandon NAFTA and China trade policies

20. He should not have conducted massive spying operations on our allies

21. He should have been engaged/awake/active during Benghazi

22. He should have addressed the loss of the Malaysian airliner (with US lives lost) rather than joking and giving a lame speech. He was not presidential, as Reagan was when the Russians shot down the Korean airliner.

23. He should not have initiated Obamacare


There you go- that is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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No, I think it's basically saying.

"Wow, he is really a horrible president"
Yeah, without actually specifically making any point about what he should have done with regards to the cited crisis! Good job, cons!
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:38 AM
 
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Barack was NEVER the leader of the free world. He is a bystander. He is a small man playing small ball. With all the crisis in the world, Barack is only concerned with issues like contraception, pay gaps, any other petty problems that should be delegated to others.
And his only consistent foreign policy is gay rights.
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Yeah, without actually specifically making any point about what he should have done with regards to the cited crisis! Good job, cons!
Hawkeye seems to have generated a fair list of items.
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:39 AM
 
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Yeah, without actually specifically making any point about what he should have done with regards to the cited crisis! Good job, cons!
Well, we are paraphrasing aren't we?

One only has to look through the millions of threads of arguments as to why he is a horrible President and then come to their own conclusion. Not that hard to find.
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Old 07-18-2014, 06:43 AM
 
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The Obama presidency should be required study for any aspiring candidate for the office of president on what not to do.
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