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I haven's seen this discussed before. What is the truth?
The Jerusalem Law and the Golan Heights Law have both been deemed illegal by the UN Security Council (resolutions 478 and 497 respectively), and are not recognized by the international community. The United States abstained from the vote on Resolution 478 and the U.S. Congress (which does not define U.S. foreign policy[26]) passed the Jerusalem Embassy Act,[26] recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. The U.S. views that parts of Jerusalem are not in Israel[27] and the official U.S. position is that the status of Jerusalem must be resolved in negotiations.[28] The EU views that Jerusalem is a corpus separatum,[29] and the United Nations considers Israel's proclamation of Jerusalem as its capital to be "null and void".
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IMO the truth is the UN is an ineffective organization that's conveniently ignored by many when it suits their agenda and a waste of fine Manhattan real estate.
According to the 1947 UN Partition Plan, Jerusalem was supposed to stay a separate entity not part of either Jewish state or the Palestinian Arab state. But in 2014 that isn't a realistic option as Israel will never give up its declared capital of Jerusalem.
I haven's seen this discussed before. What is the truth?
The truth was muddied by the UN by not following their own rules. The war of 1967 was actually three wars. The first war was initiated by Israel on Egypt due them amassing arms on their border. But as of 2005 there are no settlements (or Jews) in Gaza then that point is moot. Gaza is basically in limbo since hypothetically they can declare themselves a nation but prefer not to. Jordan and Syria did first strikes on Israel and by the end of the week they were both pushed back. Thus if the UN followed their own rules, then the settlements would be legal. But the UN decided to give a Jordan and Syria a free ride by stating it was okay for them to attack Israel since Israel attacked Egypt. In 1973 the three countries attacked Israel (with assistance from their Arab brethren) and lost. The UN was a waste again.
And israel and egypt signed a piece agreement and transfered land. Egypt reconized israel. Theres reasons why rockets are not coming into israel from egypt even after egyption political changes.
I haven's seen this discussed before. What is the truth?
The Jerusalem Law and the Golan Heights Law have both been deemed illegal by the UN Security Council (resolutions 478 and 497 respectively), and are not recognized by the international community. The United States abstained from the vote on Resolution 478 and the U.S. Congress (which does not define U.S. foreign policy[26]) passed the Jerusalem Embassy Act,[26] recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. The U.S. views that parts of Jerusalem are not in Israel[27] and the official U.S. position is that the status of Jerusalem must be resolved in negotiations.[28] The EU views that Jerusalem is a corpus separatum,[29] and the United Nations considers Israel's proclamation of Jerusalem as its capital to be "null and void".
The UN is not only ineffective and not needed, but they are clearly anti-Israel and have proven to be time and again.
We all know that if the shoe were on the other foot, and a small Arab nation were surrounded by land mass ten thousand times the size of that nation by people sworn to wipe them out, the lefties and the UN would be clearly on the side of that nation.....regardless of what they did.
The UN is not only ineffective and not needed, but they are clearly anti-Israel and have proven to be time and again.
We all know that if the shoe were on the other foot, and a small Arab nation were surrounded by land mass ten thousand times the size of that nation by people sworn to wipe them out, the lefties and the UN would be clearly on the side of that nation.....regardless of what they did.
I declare the UN "null and void".
Yet if it was not for the UN Israel would not be a nation. As in the late 1940s most nations in the UN then voted for separate Israel and Palestine state.
Yet if it was not for the UN Israel would not be a nation. As in the late 1940s most nations in the UN then voted for separate Israel and Palestine state.
You do know the UN didn't exist before October of 1945. It got dumped in their lap by the British in 1947 who abstained during the final vote.
Ambassador, Permanent Representative: Eviatar Manor Location: Geneva Subject:Israel
I have read the OHCHR press briefing from Friday, 11 July 2014, and I reject it outright.
I read it with a magnifying glass, looking for any combination of the words “Hamas” and “condemn”. I have failed to find it. In the efforts to safeguard the human rights of Israelis, the UN High Commissioner of Human Rights and her Office have failed dismally.
The clarity of her message to Israel is in sharp contrast to the opaqueness of her message to Hamas. She has put to shame George Orwell’s doublespeak. She refused, over and over, to acknowledge the fact that Hamas is committing a double war crime: targeting Israeli civilians while hiding behind Palestinian civilians. Israel, on the other hand, is taking measures to avoid harming innocent civilians and minimize casualties. Hamas exploits Israel’s policy by instructing its population to act as human shields for its arsenal of deadly missiles and for its leaders and terrorists.
I react with total disbelief to the High Commissioner of Human Rights’ call made to “leaders on all sides” to “abandon their poisonous rhetoric”. Israel acted with utmost restraint when rockets started to rain on its cities and villages following the abduction and killing of Eyal, Gil-ad and Naftali, on June 12. Furthermore, Israeli leaders have condemned the murder of Muhammad and the suspects to the murder have already been arrested and await trial.
And Hamas? Where is Hamas’ condemnation of the perpetrators? Am I deaf? I cannot hear strong voices of empathy and condolences to the families of the youths, or condemnation of the deed itself. I believe I have perfect hearing, yet I hear nothing. I only hear Hamas celebrating the landing of missiles on the homes of Israeli civilians.
The UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights is misguided. The High Commissioner has lost her bearings. Focusing her criticism on Israel is wrong, biased, unjustifiable and ultimately, unhelpful. If she actually wanted to be helpful in this situation, she would have condemned Hamas in the strongest manner.
So, once again, let me make the realities on the ground crystal clear:
Hamas – an internationally recognized terrorist organization – deliberately embeds its military operations deep in residential areas, and exploits its own civilian population as human shields. These actions are war crimes. Many of Hamas’ commanders use their own homes for military purposes – including weapons storage, command and control centers and military communications. In videos uploaded to the IDF’s YouTube channel, secondary explosions can be seen following IDF attacks on some of these houses – clearly indicating their military use. Under international law, when the exploitation of these residential houses makes an effective contribution to Hamas’ military actions, these buildings clearly become legitimate military targets.
When attacking these lawful targets, the IDF makes every effort to ensure such attacks are proportionate and to minimize any unavoidable civilian harm. The IDF has no desire to harm civilians, and is acting solely to weaken Hamas terrorist infrastructure and safeguard our civilians.
The IDF conducts its operations in full accordance with international law. IDF commanders are trained in international law and legal advisors are embedded at the highest level of the chain of command. The IDF employs a range of tools – including distributing flyers, personalized phone calls and text messages – to warn people in the vicinity of an impending attack.
Instead of raising doubts regarding Israel’s commitment to the rule of law, the High Commissioner and her Office should be questioning why Hamas deliberately embeds its military operations in residential homes and civilian areas. A terrorist organization that uses its civilian population as human shields, and deliberately fires at the Israeli civilian population, is conducting war crimes – and should be denounced for doing so.
I believe the High Commissioner’s concerns for the implementation of Israel’s ‘Operation Protective Edge’ have been fully answered. Her responsibility now is to condemn Hamas and to call on President Abbas to dissolve the Fatah-Hamas “unity government” pact, as well as to support Israel’s right to defend itself.
This is the only way to achieve peace in our region.
Eviatar Manor
Ambassador
The official status of the West Bank is UNSC 242 which gives the status of the territory disputed. Israel has adopted this policy as the main bases for negotiations on a final settlement of the borders. The resolution does not require Israel to withdraw to the 6/4/67 lines and can only be effective with a peace agreement.
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