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Old 07-15-2014, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Early America
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I was wondering why she would say something so dumb. It turns out she didn't. Thank you for the link to the full transcript which exposes the original poster's dishonesty.
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:43 PM
 
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The meme is out there...the genie has escaped the bottle. When you're explaining, you're losing.

They need to learn not to say this stuff in the first place. There's no way 'context' is going to make her 'dumb it down for women' comment any more acceptable.
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:17 PM
 
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The meme is out there...the genie has escaped the bottle. When you're explaining, you're losing.

They need to learn not to say this stuff in the first place. There's no way 'context' is going to make her 'dumb it down for women' comment any more acceptable.
No, don't bother.

Liberals will ALWAYS lie about what you said and make up bad motivations.
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:51 PM
 
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I've noticed most Republican women are oft times fairly attractive and often quite dumb. It's the "FOX News Syndrome", whereas FOX has all pretty women on their network, and most of them don't sound too bright.

But that is who Republicans like to elect, and this is what I expect from the women in their party.
Yes, because the Liberal Democrat women like Nancy Pelosi, Rosie O'Donnell, and Rachel Maddow are such geniuses.
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:15 PM
 
Location: NJ
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"But by starting off that discussion that way, we’ve already turned people away. Because it’s like ‘that doesn’t affect my life, I don’t understand how that affects my life.’"

This portion above, following the charts comment, is even more condescending that what the OP copied. Thanks for sharing that outrageous full text. Maybe when she goes home, barefoot and cooking of course, hubby can use little words to explain it to her.
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:40 PM
 
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"But by starting off that discussion that way, we’ve already turned people away. Because it’s like ‘that doesn’t affect my life, I don’t understand how that affects my life.’"

This portion above, following the charts comment, is even more condescending that what the OP copied. Thanks for sharing that outrageous full text. Maybe when she goes home, barefoot and cooking of course, hubby can use little words to explain it to her.
The full text merely expands on the points in the OP. She makes it sound like women aren't capable of thinking about their families and their jobs while still having room in their brains, or even the slightest bit of interest, in the bigger issues that affect the world outside of their domestic little bubbles. It's necessary to connect the dots for women, to bring the issues "down to their level" in order to educate them on why they should care about what's happening in their country. Yeah, not too condescending.
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:52 PM
 
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Rep. Renee Ellmers was addressing a Friday panel put on by the Republican Study Committee, the House’s conservative caucus when she made the remarks.

The problem, she said, is that male politicians are making the policy discussion too complicated for women to understand.

“Men do tend to talk about things on a much higher level,” Ellmers said. “Many of my male colleagues, when they go to the House floor, you know, they’ve got some pie chart or graph behind them and they’re talking about trillions of dollars and how, you know, the debt is awful and, you know, we all agree with that.”

“We need our male colleagues to understand that if you can bring it down to a woman’s level and what everything that she is balancing in her life — that’s the way to go,” she said.


Republican woman says GOP needs to bring policy discussions ‘down to a woman’s level’

Basically she's saying men need to dumb it down so we can get it into our pretty little heads.
No, basically she's saying that with the upcoming "war on women" narrative that the Democrats will be throwing out with the next campaign if Hillary is running that if Republicans don't want that narrative to take hold then they need to speak in layman's terms geared towards the average female so they do not alienate them. It's called context.
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And the saddest part of all is that these remarks come from a woman. Perhaps she is just not bright enough to be a representative, and is transferring her own deficiencies onto her entire gender.
No, the saddest part of all is that you are demonstrating a prejudice against women right here. Just like you liberals do when saying that poor people or black people who aren't Democrats are voting against their best interests.

Whenever a member of one the groups that liberals are supposedly the champions for doesn't behave in the manner the liberal wants them to, then the liberal suddenly becomes the exact racist/sexist that they supposedly stand against.

Your comment here was incredibly sexist. If men and women are equal, then it is not "saddest of all" that the comment comes from a woman. It matters not whether the comment came from a man or a woman. That's what equality is. Saying that it is more sad for a woman to say something than for a man to say something indicates that you think there is a right way and a wrong way for women to behave. You are accusing this woman of being sexist and yet you are demonstrating blatant sexism at the same time. You are a hypocrite.
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One thing is for sure. The GOP needs to hold a few more of those seminars about how to talk to women, because it's clear they still have a long way to go to bring themselves into the 21st century, where women are acknowledged to have brains and to know how to use them. Unless, perhaps, they are Republican women...?
There you go again. Women are acknowledged to have brains and know how to use them. Unless they think differently than you do. Then they're stupid. Nice job with the tolerance there.
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Old 07-15-2014, 11:19 PM
 
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It doesn't matter what the GOP acolytes *say*...look at how they vote and what they propose as legislation, not just on the national level but in state houses across the land.

We can argue the words they left fall til the cows come home. What are they voting for?

And please let's not have this degenerate into which party has the 'hotter' women. Looks are meaningless.
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Old 07-15-2014, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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No, basically she's saying that with the upcoming "war on women" narrative that the Democrats will be throwing out with the next campaign if Hillary is running that if Republicans don't want that narrative to take hold then they need to speak in layman's terms geared towards the average female so they do not alienate them. It's called context.

No, the saddest part of all is that you are demonstrating a prejudice against women right here. Just like you liberals do when saying that poor people or black people who aren't Democrats are voting against their best interests.

Whenever a member of one the groups that liberals are supposedly the champions for doesn't behave in the manner the liberal wants them to, then the liberal suddenly becomes the exact racist/sexist that they supposedly stand against.

Your comment here was incredibly sexist. If men and women are equal, then it is not "saddest of all" that the comment comes from a woman. It matters not whether the comment came from a man or a woman. That's what equality is. Saying that it is more sad for a woman to say something than for a man to say something indicates that you think there is a right way and a wrong way for women to behave. You are accusing this woman of being sexist and yet you are demonstrating blatant sexism at the same time. You are a hypocrite.

There you go again. Women are acknowledged to have brains and know how to use them. Unless they think differently than you do. Then they're stupid. Nice job with the tolerance there.
Taking the thought process isn't the strongest in those that you are addressing. Maybe you could dumb it down for them.
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Old 07-15-2014, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Really..they think it's women that are the problem.

It is actually a typical Republican response to the gender problem. They do not ask the question, ""What is it about Republican policies that women find objectionable?

Their response is the belligerent: "It is not our policy that is at fault, it is that you are too stupid to understand it!"

It would be sad if it were not true. Exhibit 1: Rush, Coulter and Hannity and all other Repubilcan talking heads not to mention nearly every other conservative poster on C-D.
First you falsely criticize republicans by saying they think women are the problem then you group republicans and do the same thing. I love hypocritical posts like this.
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