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Old 07-21-2014, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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I thought the crash site is at Ukraine. How do Russians have control over the area?
Yep. That statement above is nonsense. But this is what you can hear from TV.

 
Old 07-21-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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  • RUSSIA HAS IMAGES OF UKRAINE DEPLOYING BUK ROCKETS IN EAST: IFX
  • RUSSIA: UKRAINE MOVED BUK NEAR REBELS IN DONETSK JULY 17: IFX
  • RUSSIA DETECTED UKRAINIAN FIGHTER JET PICK UP SPEED TOWARD MH17
  • RUSSIAN GENERAL STAFF HAS SPACE IMAGES OF SECTORS OF UKRAINIAN FORCES' POSITIONS IN SOUTHEASTERN UKRAINE, INCLUDING BUK MISSILE LUNCH SITES 8 KILOMETERS FROM LUHANSK - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY -
  • RUSSIA SAYS MH17 DIVERGED 14 KM FROM FLIGHT PATH NEAR DONETSK
  • RUSSIA SAYS U.S. SATELLITE FLEW OVER MH17 AT TIME IT WAS DOWNED...
  • RUSSIA ASKS U.S. FOR EVIDENCE ROCKET FIRED FROM REBEL-HELD AREA
  • RUSSIA: NO U.S. PROOF THAT MISSILE FIRED FROM REBEL-HELD AREA
  • DEFENCE MINISTRY SAYS RUSSIA DID NOT DELIVER ANY SA-11 BUK MISSILE SYSTEMS TO SEPARATISTS IN EASTERN UKRAINE "OR ANY OTHER WEAPONS"
Russia Says Has Photos Of Ukraine Deploying BUK Missiles In East, Radar Proof Of Warplanes In MH17 Vicinity | Zero Hedge


Пресс-конференция представителе ¹ минобороны Ð*оссии по крушению Boeing-777 - YouTube
^^^ official presentation of the Russian Defense Ministry ^^^
The saddest things is that some folks are so biased, prejudiced and distrust Russia that they won't believe that snow is white because it was reported by the "russian propaganda".
 
Old 07-21-2014, 07:21 PM
 
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Seems to me any airline pilot under threat of a fighter plane would be making some calls and not remain radio silent about it. Seems to me that those frantic radio calls would have been intercepted by more than a few people.
Agreed and HOW! Especially after the 9-11 thing; pilots WILL talk unless ambushed 1st. That def cuts out Ukraine's jets "forcing" that 777 INTO "Ukrainian" missile range because the chatter would get out IF the Ukraine was acting dirty.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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Seems to me any airline pilot under threat of a fighter plane would be making some calls and not remain radio silent about it. Seems to me that those frantic radio calls would have been intercepted by more than a few people.
There was an article saying that there is some modern military technology which allow to jam radio calls. This gadget could be installed in the ukrainian SU-25 jet. Why not?
I can't affirm that, but I don't eliminate that as well.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:58 PM
 
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Are you really that uninformed?

No I am not being sarcastic at the moment/
Kinda scary isn't it.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 10:13 PM
 
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There was an article saying that there is some modern military technology which allow to jam radio calls. This gadget could be installed in the ukrainian SU-25 jet. Why not?
I can't affirm that, but I don't eliminate that as well.
Maybe. Tho IF the pro Russia rebels weren't scared; they'd GLADLY let people from the US, China, Europe and so on to the crash site immediately.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 10:22 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Maybe. Tho IF the pro Russia rebels weren't scared; they'd GLADLY let people from the US, China, Europe and so on to the crash site immediately.
There is very little doubt from everyone except conspiracy theorists and Russia supporters that rebels shot the plane down. NATO monitors the Russian border very closely. They know when a surface to air missile is fired and from where. They have communications about the attack. They have boasts from the sepratists. They have pictures of the buk. There is no whodunit here.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 10:26 PM
 
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There is very little doubt from everyone except conspiracy theorists and Russia supporters that rebels shot the plane down. NATO monitors the Russian border very closely. They know when a surface to air missile is fired and from where. They have communications about the attack. They have boasts from the sepratists. They have pictures of the buk. There is no whodunit here.
LOL. Now folks who were against russia are you buddies? You liberals never stop me from laughing. Few months ago anybody said anything about the commes you would wail. Just too funny. Now they are hated by you. lol
 
Old 07-21-2014, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Shrapnel damage indicates it was a surface-to-air missile not an air-to-air missile.

Photographs emerge of shrapnel damage on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 - The Washington Post
 
Old 07-22-2014, 02:39 AM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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Shrapnel damage indicates it was a surface-to-air missile not an air-to-air missile.

Photographs emerge of shrapnel damage on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 - The Washington Post

But, but, but, it was Obama flying an SU-25!! RT1 told me so!!!
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