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Old 07-19-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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Ya beat me to it. O has no power to make NATO do anything.
Well.............until he is appointed the head of the UN...........then we can blame him. lol

 
Old 07-19-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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Not verifiably sure yet, but the separatists claim to have sent them over to the Russian side. The Black boxes aren't important to the case though. Those pilots of the commercial jet never knew or saw the missile coming and they were most likely cruising on autopilot with one asleep and the other playing solitaire on his IPAD.
That's exactly the point. The black boxes will prove exactly who has the responsibility for the flight path, monitoring the flight, etc., plus any communications. That's why they were removed before an international agency could investigate.
 
Old 07-19-2014, 11:51 AM
 
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Ya beat me to it. O has no power to make NATO do anything.
I will say you and I don't agree at all politically............but I'd sit down and have a beer with you any day of the week. Beer summit. lol
 
Old 07-19-2014, 11:52 AM
 
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That's exactly the point. The black boxes will prove exactly who has the responsibility for the flight path, monitoring the flight, etc.
Oh come on........we're supposed to believe the folks who have the boxes next? All are liars. So it goes. Politicians are like my 14yo girl............every time she/they open their mouths they lie. I don't buy it. My wife does........lol
 
Old 07-19-2014, 11:55 AM
 
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Oh come on........we're supposed to believe the folks who have the boxes next?
Not now. They were removed from the scene. The very fact that they were removed is suspicious. No?
 
Old 07-19-2014, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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Well, on the one hand I applaud you for the logical view of the situation. On the other hand I understand and pity your wishful thinking
"Wishful thinking"?
I can put my hand on Holy Bible or any other Holy book and say that the Ukrainian government is a bunch of inhumane bloody criminals with no conscience. And I have good reason to say that.
 
Old 07-19-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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That's exactly the point. The black boxes will prove exactly who has the responsibility for the flight path, monitoring the flight, etc., plus any communications. That's why they were removed before an international agency could investigate.
Well, that could be the case and finger pointing seems to be the action of the day. To be fair to the airlines, the world community was only aware that the rebels had shoulder launched missiles with a max altitude of 12,000 feet. they overflew the territory at 32-33 thousand feet. The BUK11 system, with a maximum altitude of 35,000 ft was a new entry into the conflict and this was a first case usage. It caught everybody by surprise, even American Intelligence.
 
Old 07-19-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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Not now. They were removed from the scene. The very fact that they were removed is suspicious. No?
Yes! Very much so.
 
Old 07-19-2014, 12:03 PM
 
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Not now. They were removed from the scene. The very fact that they were removed is suspicious. No?
Who even know what was removed? Do you? Were you there? All are liars I don't believe anything they put out anymore, including our guys who say they tossed Bin Laden off a ship. Just my opinion.
 
Old 07-19-2014, 12:03 PM
 
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The separatists do not have aircraft, so why would the Ukrainian army be shooting things out of the sky?
To make "the separatists" guilty for the world eyes.
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