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Old 07-19-2014, 03:19 AM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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It does seem that privacy has vanished under the Obama administration. Before that, people's information was kept private in records and it didn't appear online searches or caches. But since Obama's been in office, seems like the government is selling people's private information to marketing agencies.

Do you think Obama is the most anti-privacy president in American history?
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Old 07-19-2014, 03:41 AM
 
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It does seem that privacy has vanished under the Obama administration. Before that, people's information was kept private in records and it didn't appear online searches or caches.
Um, no. Before Obama became president, companies were already doing whatever they could to leverage as much information about people as they could - Google and Amazon were selling and compiling information, credit rating agencies were compiling information, often wrong information that could damage people without them even knowing it, and so forth.

And then there were programs like Stop and Frisk, warentless wiretapping, and so forth, under various governments.

And before *that*, we had egregious abuses like COINTELPRO and the Tuskeegee Experiment. We've put in place *some* protections in modern times, such as for medical information or college records, but by and large, your lack of privacy has much more to do with what companies want than with anything to do with the government.
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Old 07-19-2014, 03:45 AM
 
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It gets worse with each admin., so yes and the next el presidente will be even worse.
Funny how we americans can have no secrets from the government, but the government has them in spades ( for our own protection ).
Oh and lets not forget the obama admin has gone after more whistleblowers than any other admin. so telling the governments secrets has become even riskier during his reign.
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Old 07-19-2014, 08:08 AM
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The only difference is that thanks to Snowden we have some concrete proof of just how extensive the spying is.

Not sure where the OP is getting the idea that the government is selling our private information to marketing agencies. That's rather nonsensical. Google/Amazon/Facebook/etc have much better information than the government, as far as marketing to people is concerned, and millions of people readily surrender their browsing and shopping habits to them.
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Old 07-19-2014, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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OP is assuming we've had a right to privacy in the first place.

We don't.

Companies get all sorts of information about people all the time, but let the government do it and it's the end of the world.
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Old 07-19-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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You had very little Privacy before Obama came in. Don't you remember the Patriot Act?
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Old 07-19-2014, 12:16 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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It's amazing to watch Liberals (well they're not actually Liberals if they defend this are they?) defend Obama on his invasions of our privacy & lack of transparency. He is the absolute worst President in our history in regards to privacy invasion & transparency, despite billing himself as the opposite (just like his corporate ties/appointees). He's extended the 'Patriot Act', he allowed NSA domestic spying, he's developed a secret kill list of US citizens, we can now indefinitely detain US citizens, his first order of business was giving the security contract in our airports to Bush's boy Michael Chertoff & RapiScan, the company he now pimps so that children & the elderly are being strip searched at our airports, we're still running secret torture prisons, etc. etc.

Every President is an escalation of the previous one, but that's a cop out & everyone knows it. Obama promised to be the one that would reverse the trend & instead has become the worst enemy the people could ever have in terms of stealing our privacy & cloaking what his Admin is doing. It's not even debatable.
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Old 07-19-2014, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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It's amazing to watch Liberals (well they're not actually Liberals if they defend this are they?) defend Obama on his invasions of our privacy & lack of transparency. He is the absolute worst President in our history in regards to privacy invasion & transparency, despite billing himself as the opposite (just like his corporate ties/appointees). He's extended the 'Patriot Act', he allowed NSA domestic spying, he's developed a secret kill list of US citizens, we can now indefinitely detain US citizens, his first order of business was giving the security contract in our airports to Bush's boy Michael Chertoff & RapiScan, the company he now pimps so that children & the elderly are being strip searched at our airports, we're still running secret torture prisons, etc. etc.

Every President is an escalation of the previous one, but that's a cop out & everyone knows it. Obama promised to be the one that would reverse the trend & instead has become the worst enemy the people could ever have in terms of stealing our privacy & cloaking what his Admin is doing. It's not even debatable.
I remember one time he was talking about New World Order and that normal people are too small minded to govern their own affairs.
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Old 07-19-2014, 01:31 PM
 
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I remember when pigs flew out of my ass once.
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Old 07-19-2014, 01:42 PM
 
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There is no general constitutional right of privacy; and the NSA metadata collection program did not violate any right of privacy protected by law.
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