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Old 07-21-2014, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Have you ever noticed there is always a reason that things are not true when it comes to Obama. And it is never his fault things get on the cover of a book wrong. And it was the cover of the book and not a brochure the reporter I saw being held in front of the camera. You can fool some of the people some of the time; but you can't fool all the people all of the time. The truth will be out some day.
So you believe in grand conspiracies including the Hawaii Dept of Records, a Republican Governor who was on McCain's short list for VP, etc?? Its absolute absudity.

 
Old 07-21-2014, 08:57 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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this i know very well. what i find fascinating is that there is still such a high percentage of birthers among the GOP polled.
I find it fascinating that there are 11% democrats, to add to the 41% republicans.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:04 PM
 
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And it was the cover of the book ....
then please link to anything showing the "born in kenya" claim on the book. there are over 4.5 million copies of "dreams from my father" (1995) and "audacity of hope" in circulation. if either cover stated obama was "born in kenya" it would be easy to confirm.

so, please, support your claim with some evidence.

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You can fool some of the people some of the time;.....
obviously.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:08 PM
 
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Why don't you just let a certified forensic document examiner authenticate the birth certificate and selective service registration form? Oh, you can't find one?

Maricopa County,AZ Sheriff Dept expert examiner Reed Hayes, who did work for Obama attorney's and is a democrat deemed the documents the worst forgeries he has ever laid eyes on.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:09 PM
 
Location: FL
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Obama allowed it to fester, he's just as much to blame.
Where were you in 2008?
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:19 PM
 
Location: NJ
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this i know very well. what i find fascinating is that there is still such a high percentage of birthers among the GOP polled.
followers of the following man, no doubt




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Old 07-21-2014, 09:22 PM
 
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Maricopa County,AZ Sheriff Dept expert examiner Reed Hayes,....
hayes doesn't work for the MCSO. he's an independent contractor in hawaii specializing in handwriting analysis. mike zullo has been very specific that he, not the MCSO, owns reed hayes' report ( he's even copy-written it ).

Reed Hayes: expert enigma | Obama Conspiracy Theories

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... who did work for Obama attorney's...
nope. hayes once did some work ( unknown exactly what ) for an attorney that worked for perkins coie but that attorney had no connection to obama.

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.... deemed the documents the worst forgeries he has ever laid eyes on.
still unknown exactly what hayes' report says. zullo won't release it.

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Old 07-21-2014, 09:33 PM
 
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The only thing this poll shows is that Americans no matter which political party are gullible idiots (read the whole article)...

Just read all the posts in this thread, many of the posts read like a 10 year olds writing...

~ Republicans are idiots
~ Republicans believe in a lot in crazy nonsense
~ there are that many morons among the Repubs
~ Somebody hand me a torch so I can set this straw man ablaze
~ Birthers are stupid (yet people who believe we never landed on the moon are smart?)

It's so much fun to read these rabid anti-Democrat/anti-Republican rants...
Make no mistake, many of these people are nuts. Functional in most respects in everyday life but they are the ones the family whispers about "don't bring up politics around aunt Jane or cousin Jeff" type stuff.
 
Old 07-21-2014, 09:36 PM
 
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And it was the cover of the book and not a brochure ......
breitbart says differently:

The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii'
 
Old 07-22-2014, 12:54 AM
 
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http://reedwrite.com/

Reed Hayes is a court qualified handwriting and document examiner whose business is located in Honolulu, Hawaii. He has nearly 40 years of handwriting related experience, and has worked as an international consultant and speaker.

Reed is a graduate of the International Graphoanalysis Society and the Andrew Bradley Training Course in Forensic Document Examination (beginning and advanced). He holds certification from the National Association of Document Examiners and a certificate of training from the American Institute of Applied Science. Reed utilizes his handwriting skills in forensic document examination, personnel selection, jury screening and litigation support. He is the author and co-author of several handwriting related publications. Case involvement includes investigation of the purported Jack the Ripper Diary.

Qualifications (for further details see Curriculum Vitae)

Certified Document Examiner
Court Qualified Expert Witness
Board Certified Behavioral Profiler, ABFE
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Author/Co-Author

Effective Witness Techniques for Handwriting and Document Examiners
Forensic Handwriting Examination: A Definitive Guide
Written in Crime
Between the Lines
Guide to Children’s Handwriting

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