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This doesn't surprise me. Typical partisan politics. I would bet you could find a similar amount of Democrats who think Bush lost the election.
Bush did lose the election. He lost the popular vote. There is no dispute over that fact.
Regarding what happened in Florida..... I don't know if you've ever visited the area, but I find it completely feasible that an election there may have been stolen.
Add in the discounting of absentee ballots, his brother being the governor, the Supreme Court effectively having to choose the winner of the election, and the GOP's efforts to suppress the vote, well....
its less a case of "where there is smoke, there is fire" and more a case of "where there are dozens of tiny flames, there is fire".
However, the effects and aftermath are a foregone conclusions at this point.
that's all very nice but it doesn't change the fact that we have yet to see hayes' report. we already have expert testimony and reports that contradict hayes' claim that it is a forgery ( if that truly is his claim, currently we're dependent on the second hand account from mike zullo ) so until we can see the report it doesn't mean anything.
We will never see it, because it doesn't say what Zullo portends it says. If it did, he would be flouting it all over the Internet. Instead, he copyrights it so no one will EVER see it. That tells us all we need to know about the veracity of the "report." He's got nothing. And everyone but the stupid birthers think otherwise.
I'm finding it amusing the resurgence of birthers on this board. They must be feeling frustrated that Obama is in his sixth year as president with no removal for usurperin' in sight.
that's all very nice but it doesn't change the fact that we have yet to see hayes' report. we already have expert testimony and reports that contradict hayes' claim that it is a forgery ( if that truly is his claim, currently we're dependent on the second hand account from mike zullo ) so until we can see the report it doesn't mean anything.
Strange you didn't link to the "expert" testimony and reports that contradict Hayes claim. These experts have credentials along the lines as Mr Reed or are you going to point us to Dr. Conspiracy? Ha ha.
that's all very nice but it doesn't change the fact that we have yet to see hayes' report. we already have expert testimony and reports that contradict hayes' claim that it is a forgery ( if that truly is his claim, currently we're dependent on the second hand account from mike zullo ) so until we can see the report it doesn't mean anything.
And just who are these experts and there credentials that contradicts Hayes claim?
I'm still waiting for the name of a certified forensic document examiner who will authenticate the birth certificate....
the COLB or the LFBC? the information on both has been verified by the state of hawaii which then makes it covered under the "full faith and credit" clause of the US constitution. if you don't like it then you can contact your congressman to have the constitution amended ( i'd love to hear what would be an acceptable manner of vital records maintenance that would satisfy the birthers ).
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.... and selective service registration document which Maricopa County, AZ Sheriff's Department (America's 4th largest) have deemed on their letterhead to be forgeries.
that would be the one released during the bush administration and has been verified directly to joe arpio by the selective service.
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There is no plaque attesting to Obama, or whatever his name is at Kapiolani Hospital attesting to the birth of the first African american president.Why?
do you know of any plagues at the other 3 hospitals where US presidents were born?
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Kapiolani will not acknowledge he was even born there. Why?
In what legal setting did Obama's name change back to Obama from Soetoro?
none, he never legally changed it in the first place. obama is the third president to use their stepfather's last name as a child. clinton waited nearly 10 years before legally changing it, ford nearly 20 years. obama only used soetoro for less than 4.
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Why did he omit name Soetoro and Sobarkah from IL Bar application?
most likely since he never used the name as an adult or professionally.
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Answer the questions as asked. Not interested in conjecture.
then why'd you ask me a bunch of questions that you knew i had no first hand knowledge of?
Strange you didn't link to the "expert" testimony and reports that contradict Hayes claim.
all you had to do was ask.
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