Ron Paul - 'So we first, indirectly and directly through Israel, helped establish Hamas, then we have to kill them' (independent, Michigan)
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The Israelis are totally blameless. Leave them alone and they will leave you alone. They gave up Gaza just to have it become an armed camp sending rockets into Israel.
Jews were always in Palestine. There is no such thing as Palestinians. They were just Arabs that co-existed with Jews. Remember Judaism stretches back long before Mohammed ever stepped onto this earth.
Not really no. Even Israel indicates they did not intend for this to happen. So I'm not sure what you're trying to claim here.
Playing PC. Not how you go into war. Look at Iraq. We played way too much PC and many of our guys died. In war you kill the other guys not matter. Folks may get in the way...........sorry.
If were just discussing Gaza alone then Hamas gets 100% of the blame no matter what other group is firing rockets out of Gaza. Hamas was voted in as the majority off the Senate and not the leadership of the Palestinians. Once they did the coup of Gaza and killed off most of the Fatah leaders, they made themselves the leaders of Gaza (which dissolved its connection to the Palestinian Authority). They are 100% to blame for the deaths of the citizens by taking all weapons away from them over the following two years plus doing more executions so no one could stand up to them.
Now if we're discussing the three kids kidnapped and killed in the West Bank, Fatah should have take the hit for that and not Hamas. For that situation Israel went a bit overboard. Fatah should still be held accountable for that, but since the US has to stick their noses in everything IMO there weren't any Fatah arrests and there should have been some.
The Israelis should never have "forced themselves on an unwelcoming land" to use Gandhi's phrase. Everything that has happened since is their fault; all the death and misery and ruin. The Zionist project, once it became a Jewish supremacist movement, was simply evil.
Of course they do. Both sides are guilty of long term posturing, retaliation and sheer idiocy. It's a never ending cycle. Anyone who thinks differently is living in a fantasy land of their own creation.
What we know so far about the attack on a UN school in Gaza
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In recent days, Hamas has fired rockets from an area of Beit Hanoun where an UNRWA shelter is located. Last night, the Israel Defense Forces told the Red Cross to evacuate civilians from UNRWA’s shelter in Beit Hanoun between the hours of 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. today. UNRWA and the Red Cross received the message.
Hamas prevented civilians from evacuating the area during the window that the IDF gave them.
Today, July 24, Hamas continued firing from Beit Hanoun. The IDF responded by targeting the source of the fire. Also today, several rockets launched from Gaza toward Israel fell short and hit Beit Hanoun
The Israelis are totally blameless. Leave them alone and they will leave you alone. They gave up Gaza just to have it become an armed camp sending rockets into Israel.
Jews were always in Palestine. There is no such thing as Palestinians. They were just Arabs that co-existed with Jews. Remember Judaism stretches back long before Mohammed ever stepped onto this earth.
You have to admit there were very few Jews in Judea after Rome got done pacifying it. Syria Palestra (where we get the name Palestine from) ) was what the Romans renamed it after the diaspora and the virtual annihalation of the Jewish people in Judea c 79 AD. Mankind abhores a vacuum and other Semitic peoples called Arabs, Greeks and Egyptians reoccupied it during the later days of the Roman Empire.
Was that one of those UN schools used to hide dozens of Hamas rockets?
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake
Sick. The Hamas animals that are using schools to cache weapons are disgusting pieces of humanity. How can any group have that much contempt for their fellow men?
The media does not like to draw attention to this part of the story.
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