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Old 07-29-2014, 10:35 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Six years ago your baby Obama took over. At that point as devolved into a depression, the wars were being won, no president (regardless of party) controls the stock market, as soon as Obama took over unemployment jumped, the housing market is about the same, the deficit has more than doubled and business and consumers at this point have zero confidence in your president.

As for any recovery that we may or may not be in, absolutely nothing to do with the restrictive policies of Obama. Any recovery is in spite of him. Once again, no president controls anything to do with the stock market. When it tanked with Obama in office, he certainly did not attempt to take credit.

Maybe you need some caffeine to wake up and see the world as it truly is and try laying off the Obama talking points. They are at best spin but in fact are additional lies and taking credit for things that are happening despite his interference.
Your post is ignorant nonsense. The US had been in a recession for nearly a year when Obama was elected, and the U.S. had been shedding jobs since March of 2008 and by the time Obama was elected we were shedding nearly half a million jobs a month and by the time Bush left office is was three quarters of a million jobs a month. And no, unemployment did not suddenly jump when Obama took over - that's more total bullsh*t. When the recession started in March of 2008 the UE rate was 5.1%, by August it was 6.1%, by the time Bush left office it was 7.8% - and it peaked at 10% the following October. The unemployment rate gain from 5.1% at the start of the recession to 7.8% is a net increase in the UE rate of 2.7 points under Bush. The net increase under Obama (from that 7.8% t0 10%) is 2.2 points. Whether you want to admit or not, the UE rate went up MORE under Bush than it did under Obama (2.7 point increase for Bush, 2.2 point increase for Obama). Did it get to a higher level under Obama than under Bush? Of course it - it was surging even before Obama was elected, and that surge carried through for 9 more months before turning around. But the largest part of the increase happened before Obama took office. That's a FACT.

United States Non Farm Payrolls | Actual Data | Forecasts | Calendar

Unemployment Rate - US | Portal Seven

Regarding Consumer Confidence - as usual you have NO CLUE what reality is. Consumer Confidence is at the highest level it's been since October 2007 - 6 months before the Great Recession began:

Consumer confidence hits 90.9 in July, versus 85.3 estimate

Ken
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:58 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Your post is ignorant nonsense. The US had been in a recession for nearly a year when Obama was elected, and the U.S. had been shedding jobs since March of 2008 and by the time Obama was elected we were shedding nearly half a million jobs a month and by the time Bush left office is was three quarters of a million jobs a month. And no, unemployment did not suddenly jump when Obama took over - that's more total bullsh*t. When the recession started in March of 2008 the UE rate was 5.1%, by August it was 6.1%, by the time Bush left office it was 7.8% - and it peaked at 10% the following October. The unemployment rate gain from 5.1% at the start of the recession to 7.8% is a net increase in the UE rate of 2.7 points under Bush. The net increase under Obama (from that 7.8% t0 10%) is 2.2 points. Whether you want to admit or not, the UE rate went up MORE under Bush than it did under Obama (2.7 point increase for Bush, 2.2 point increase for Obama). Did it get to a higher level under Obama than under Bush? Of course it - it was surging even before Obama was elected, and that surge carried through for 9 more months before turning around. But the largest part of the increase happened before Obama took office. That's a FACT.

United States Non Farm Payrolls | Actual Data | Forecasts | Calendar

Unemployment Rate - US | Portal Seven

Regarding Consumer Confidence - as usual you have NO CLUE what reality is. Consumer Confidence is at the highest level it's been since October 2007 - 6 months before the Great Recession began:

Consumer confidence hits 90.9 in July, versus 85.3 estimate

Ken
How can one obamabot be so consistently wrong on all fronts? You just showed us.
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Old 07-29-2014, 02:52 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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How can one obamabot be so consistently wrong on all fronts? You just showed us.
How can one wingnut be so consistantly ignorantly stubborn about facing FACTS?
I'm sorry, but the DATA doesn't support your claims in the slightest. The data says what the data says.
The fact that you don't like that and refused to admit you're wrong, doesn't change a thing.
I post data and facts. It's not my OPINION, it's DATA and FACTS.
You post an ignorant opinion.
I think I'll go with the data and facts.



Ken
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Old 07-29-2014, 02:56 PM
 
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What SPECIFICALLY is he REFERRING TO?
There's certainly BEEN lots of change - Obamacare is in place with more than 12 million people signed up, combat troops are out of Iraq and we're winding down in Afghanistan, the UE rate is plummeted, and we've gone from shedding roughly 800,000 jobs/month to creating 200,000+ jobs/month, the stock market has recovered and the housing market is much improved.
Are they still problems with the country?
Of course there are - there ALWAYS are. What else is new?


Ken

You are just making repub heads spin with true facts.
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Old 07-29-2014, 02:59 PM
 
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Um, yeah right surrrrrrrre.


Why is it OUR responsibility to put out every "fire" on earth?
Apparantly you never saw a war you didn't want to be a part of.
Didn't you learn ANYTHING from GW?
Apparently not.
Well - feel free to head on over there as a volunteer. The rest of the US will stay out of it.

Ken

Put him on the front lines!
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Old 07-29-2014, 03:03 PM
 
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Your post is ignorant nonsense. The US had been in a recession for nearly a year when Obama was elected, and the U.S. had been shedding jobs since March of 2008 and by the time Obama was elected we were shedding nearly half a million jobs a month and by the time Bush left office is was three quarters of a million jobs a month. And no, unemployment did not suddenly jump when Obama took over - that's more total bullsh*t. When the recession started in March of 2008 the UE rate was 5.1%, by August it was 6.1%, by the time Bush left office it was 7.8% - and it peaked at 10% the following October. The unemployment rate gain from 5.1% at the start of the recession to 7.8% is a net increase in the UE rate of 2.7 points under Bush. The net increase under Obama (from that 7.8% t0 10%) is 2.2 points. Whether you want to admit or not, the UE rate went up MORE under Bush than it did under Obama (2.7 point increase for Bush, 2.2 point increase for Obama). Did it get to a higher level under Obama than under Bush? Of course it - it was surging even before Obama was elected, and that surge carried through for 9 more months before turning around. But the largest part of the increase happened before Obama took office. That's a FACT.

United States Non Farm Payrolls | Actual Data | Forecasts | Calendar

Unemployment Rate - US | Portal Seven

Regarding Consumer Confidence - as usual you have NO CLUE what reality is. Consumer Confidence is at the highest level it's been since October 2007 - 6 months before the Great Recession began:

Consumer confidence hits 90.9 in July, versus 85.3 estimate

Ken
I liked that . thanks
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Old 07-29-2014, 03:10 PM
 
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You liberals precious data can be twisted and spun to spit out whatever they want to be shown. Go live in reality where folks do and your data means nothing. Just like your and Obama's Hope and Change meant nothing. Just crap tossed onto the wall.
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Old 07-29-2014, 03:14 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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You liberals precious data can be twisted and spun to spit out whatever they want to be shown. Go live in reality where folks do and your data means nothing. Just like your and Obama's Hope and Change meant nothing. Just crap tossed onto the wall.
It only "means nothing" to YOU because YOU don't LIKE what it SAYS.

I got news for ya'. Simply denying what you don't like won't change realtity in the slightest.
LOL


Ken
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Old 07-29-2014, 03:17 PM
 
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It only "means nothing" to YOU because YOU don't LIKE what it SAYS.

I got news for ya'. Simply denying what you don't like won't change realtity in the slightest.
LOL


Ken
It only means something to you because you agree what it says. What I don't like? The US is a mess. You can toss around your data all you want. Reality is what I'm talking about not data. Hey I work in the IT world so data is my friend. lol

Go see folks starving and it doesn't show up on the spreadsheets.............but the gold still does that nobody has been able to find. lol
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Old 07-29-2014, 03:21 PM
 
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Wouldn't it totally suck to be Joe Biden right now? He rode into the VP's office believing that he'd forever be attached to the first (half) black President in a way that would do untold good for America.

Now he gets to ride off into the sunset being attached to the worst mistake America has ever made.

Sorry for your luck Joe!
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