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No one would be talking about Bush's presidency as being disasterous if not for Iraq.
What kind of logic is that? Bush made Iraq his priority.
Nobody would be talking about Hitler if not for the Holocaust and WWII.
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Bush also took the job when we were in a recession
There was a mild recession after the dotcom boom, but he also inherited a surplus.
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So it really isn't about we invaded a country that didn't do anything to us (the Serbs didn't attack the US), but about being bogged down like Vietnam. I agree.
Not just getting bogged down--totally unnecessary. The Serbs were responsible for massive ethnic cleansing and mass rape. The Serbs were shooting mortars into food markets on weekend mornings in order to kill as many innocent people as possible. The stories were horrendous. Serb soldiers swinging infants and smashing them against trees in front of the mothers, who they then raped or killed in front of their families, who they then killed. People were asking for help and Europe wasn't doing anything to help them. The Nato forces went in with a humanitarian motivation rather than it being a preemptive invasion of a sovereign state and subsequent nation building. I don't see the results as being anything more than a resolution and the result is peace. There was no plan for Iraq other than to kill Saddam and plenty of Iraqis did not want us to invade their country, kill innocent people, create hundreds of thousands of refugees, start a civil war and leave with the mess it is in now. There is no way at all Iraq can be compared to Bosnia.
And for the record Reagan was a great leader and what made him a great leader is that he brought parties together on both sides. A great leader does NOT ignore the other side because they don't agree with you. When you silence such a large majority of the country you're going to have back lash. Obama hates to be told anything other than he's right. That is NOT a good leader...
Our nation is so divided, Putin is eating President Obama's lunch, our border is not being properly policed because the President and Congress can't seem to pry their heads out of their collective rear ends and you think things are significantly better?
-Our nation is divided because of right-wingers, period. How many Republican voters even consider our president an actual American? Less than 50%?
-Check our immigration statistics. The influx of undocumented workers has slowed to a crawl since Obama assumed the presidency. Much of that is due to our economy and massive decline in birthrates in Mexico, but still.
-I can definitely see how the Fox spinjob "Putin eating Obama's lunch" tops the Iraq War, which left 175,000 dead. Give me a break.
Our nation is far better off today than 2008-2009. This isn't debatable. Is it Clinton-era prosperous? No, but it's on the mend.
And for the record Reagan was a great leader and what made him a great leader is that he brought parties together on both sides. A great leader does NOT ignore the other side because they don't agree with you. When you silence such a large majority of the country you're going to have back lash. Obama hates to be told anything other than he's right. That is NOT a good leader...
Lefties think a great leader who is impotent and blames everyone else. I turn Obama off every time he gives a speech because it's the same broken record of him blaming.
A great leader is able to get everyone to the table and people want to hear what he has to say. Obama whines and blames then expects them to want to have anything to do with him. He turns people off. Obama just talks to his base <whine.. whine... blame>
And for the record Reagan was a great leader and what made him a great leader is that he brought parties together on both sides. A great leader does NOT ignore the other side because they don't agree with you. When you silence such a large majority of the country you're going to have back lash. Obama hates to be told anything other than he's right. That is NOT a good leader...
No, Obama is sick of being forced to negotiate with people who have no intention to compromise.
Of course economists wanted to extend tax cuts in the years during and after the Great Recession. Raising them at the point would have been economic suicide. The tax cuts were a bad idea in the first place.
It's never Bush's/Republicans fault. Pretend 2001-2008 never happened and blame everything on our current president. We get it.
-Our nation is divided because of right-wingers, period. How many Repiblican voters even think our president is American? Less than 50%?
-Check our immigration statistics. The influx of undocumented workers has slowed to a crawl since Obama assumed the presidency. Much of that is due to our economy and massive decline in birthrates in Mexico, but still.
-I can definitely see how the Fox spinjob "Putin eating Obama's lunch" tops the Iraq War, which left 175,000 dead. Give me a break.
Our nation is far better off today than 2008-2009. This isn't debatable. Is it Clinton-era prosperous? No, but it's on the mend.
hmmm. Let me point and blame you and attack you every chance I get and see how that brings us together. lol, get real.
Of course economists wanted to extend tax cuts in the years during and after the Great Recession. Raising them at the point would have been economic suicide. The tax cuts were a bad idea in the first place.
We get it we get it. It's never Bush's/Republicans fault. Pretend 2001-2008 never happened and blame everything on our current president. We get it.
And for the record Reagan was a great leader and what made him a great leader is that he brought parties together on both sides. A great leader does NOT ignore the other side because they don't agree with you. When you silence such a large majority of the country you're going to have back lash. Obama hates to be told anything other than he's right. That is NOT a good leader...
Keep in mind that he has 2 1/2 years remaining. Given the performance of his terms so far, he will get much lower.
The November elections will be a referendum on the policies of Obama-
Obamacare
his handling of the economy
debt
border situation and immigration
energy
foreign policy
Let's see what America says about the democrat party in November. That will tell quite a bit. Keep in mind, however, that the nation re-elected clearly the most incompetent POTUS in US history for a second term. As absurd as it sounds, there are MANY dependent idiots who will vote democrat regardless of performance. Given this, as illogical as it may be, democrats may retain more senate seats than we expect and perhaps even retain the White House in 2016.
Never underestimate the number and power of idiots in the US. As long as there are significant numbers of uneducated, low IQ, low initiative, and uninformed citizens in the US, there will always be a strong democrat party.
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Of course economists wanted to extend tax cuts in the years during and after the Great Recession. Raising them at the point would have been economic suicide. The tax cuts were a bad idea in the first place.
