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Old 08-13-2014, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Germany
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looks to me as if Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is biased, has an agenda:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/bloodiest-days-of-ukraines-ethnic-cleansing-expected-to-come-now/5395754

 
Old 08-13-2014, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Germany
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preliminary report of the Dutch safety board "in a few weeks"
 
Old 08-13-2014, 02:13 PM
 
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It was happened during the daytime and there were tens testimonies by locals (not the rebels itself) who witnessed 2 planes in one part of the sky in the same time - a commercial plane and a military jet. There are some videos somewhere online with the witnesses saying it (in russian).
Anyone claiming they can tell aircraft types at 33,000 feet are completely full of it.
 
Old 08-13-2014, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I just hope that these cities in Eastern Ukraine continue to resist Kiev.

Of course, they can't hold out without external support. And Russia isn't going to provide them that support without getting something in return.


Which means, because of the system of nation-states. These people are left with only one of two terrible decisions. Either continue fighting and sell your soul to Moscow. Or stop fighting and be ruled by a fundamentally illegitimate government in Kiev.


Why can't they just a third option, independence?


Why are people such controlling, warmongering *******s?
 
Old 08-13-2014, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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I just hope that these cities in Eastern Ukraine continue to resist Kiev.

Of course, they can't hold out without external support. And Russia isn't going to provide them that support without getting something in return.


Which means, because of the system of nation-states. These people are left with only one of two terrible decisions. Either continue fighting and sell your soul to Moscow. Or stop fighting and be ruled by a fundamentally illegitimate government in Kiev.


Why can't they just a third option, independence?


Why are people such controlling, warmongering *******s?
No, this is not an option. Kievan junta wants physically destroy those people. There is genocide there, not just a civil war.
Yes! In 21st century, in the center of Europe kievan regime intentionally kills civilians of the east everyday. So, the rebels going to fight with Kievan junta to the last man. They have no choice. But the western media is absolutely silent about it. Instead, they keep bashing the rebels. And the most disgraceful thing is that ukrainian punitive squads are managed by the american military "advisers".

There is no a bloodshed conflict in the world without participating of the U.S.
And this is the country where any coin says - In God We Trust.
What kind of God He is?

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Old 08-13-2014, 04:17 PM
 
Location: southern california
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bottom line 300 dead people unarmed and uninvolved.
who fired the missile.
ooppps i missed does not cut it.
 
Old 08-13-2014, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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looks to me as if Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is biased, has an agenda:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/bloodie...me-now/5395754
Very truthful article.
But, again, western MSM is silent about it.
 
Old 08-13-2014, 04:59 PM
 
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America supported terrorists in Syria to bring down Assad. America supports nazis in the Ukraine to do whatever the end game is against Putin. Insanity.
 
Old 08-13-2014, 05:06 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Well, this hasn't been confirmed though. It's just a theory, or even propaganda. Although the video was posted a month ago.

Any skeptics tried digging deeper, or there's nothing besides this?
As a general rule, there is nothing to nonsense conspiracy theories made up by bored internet trolls.

You inquired what a person with a rational mind would do. Here's what: until credible evidence is demonstrated, stop treating fiction as fact.
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:26 PM
 
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Wow! Reading comments to this article is even more interesting than reading a C-D thread with the similar subject.
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