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Old 07-29-2014, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Gone
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If they do maybe we need to water the tree of liberty some red fluid of tyrants..The tree is very parched.
Be careful what you wish for, the red fluid could end up coming from you and yours, anyone that has served in combat knows that bullets are not selectinve in those they destroy. Why is the right always has to suggest the killing of their fellow Americans and the violent overthrow of our freely elected government, do you not know that it does not make one a Patriot but instead sounds of Treason?
If the government wants to regulate manufacturing they can and will, you elected them so you can voice your opinion on their actions in the voting booth, that is how it is done in the USA. Maybe you should just hurry up and buy your printer and get it done before they do regulate it, or better yet use the same amount of money and buy several good firearms, maybe a good quality AR with sight and a nice dependable combat capable handgun that are made by professionals that stand by their work and give you a warranty to back it up.
I understand you fasination with the technology but as it stands you are better served simply purchasing what you need now and once the prices on printers go down (they will) you can get one and build your own as a hobby.

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Old 07-29-2014, 07:28 AM
 
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Does that mean that a printed gun has the same serial number ..if a gun even has a serial number...oops I don't know the answer...the must have something because they are registered so I assume they have some kind of number...
At the present time, guns manufactured by an individual at home, for their own use specifically, are not required to have a serial number. If that same gun is ever to be sold or otherwise transferred to another individual, it must then be serialized. All guns manufactured by a licensed manufacturer (has an 07 Federal Firearms License, and builds guns for resale) must be serialized and recorded in the manufacturer's record book (ATF audits that book now and then).

I would guess it would be easy enough to add a serial number to the 3d print, and have it different for each copy. You'd just need to change the number in the 3d model file from which the gun was to be printed.
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Old 07-29-2014, 08:21 AM
 
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You can also print out body organs to repair the damage done by printed firearms.
Plus, it can take the porn industry to an exciting new level
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Old 07-29-2014, 09:59 AM
 
Location: MS
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At the present time, guns manufactured by an individual at home, for their own use specifically, are not required to have a serial number. If that same gun is ever to be sold or otherwise transferred to another individual, it must then be serialized. All guns manufactured by a licensed manufacturer (has an 07 Federal Firearms License, and builds guns for resale) must be serialized and recorded in the manufacturer's record book (ATF audits that book now and then).

I would guess it would be easy enough to add a serial number to the 3d print, and have it different for each copy. You'd just need to change the number in the 3d model file from which the gun was to be printed.
I've heard conflicting opinions on this. The most common is that the gun can't be sold, transferred, given away, etc. legally. I've also heard that you can put it in a trust and just add or remove trustees as needed. But how is the gun included in the trust without a serial number? That wasn't clearly explained.

Before I build an 80% gun, I will get a definite answer from an attorney familiar with gun laws.
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Old 07-29-2014, 10:02 AM
 
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Agreed

Yes, "you fellas" mean liberals.

Prove the point that most mass shooters are not liberals.

There was a story going around where someone concluded that most mass shooters were liberal, based on their parent's leanings and what could be inferred from their written rants.

No, I'm not saying most mass shooters are liberals, I'm saying they generally do not think coherently enough to have sensible political leanings.
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Politically left columnists and commentators made the convincing argument against the idea that most mass murderers were liberals. Crazy people do not have coherent ideologies for the most part.
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Your original statement implied (to me anyway) that only right wing crazies went on shooting sprees, never left wingers. I am telling you that the same argument that disproves the "most shooters are lefties" emails also disproves the "its only right wing nut jobs" line of thinking that many here seem to indulge in.
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.



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I'm not sure I've yet come across an individual with less comprehension of idiomatic speech.
Basically, in order to understand you; I'd have to have been an avid follower of this forum and caught those very threads you hinted (but not specifically mentioned); And I'd have to know that "they" refers to a specific group of liberal commentators who disproved a subject that is not mentioned expicitly in your post. On top of that, I also have to know that you misinterepted my post and was arguing about something that I didn't say.

Okay. Wow, I guess I should have understood that post from the get-go.

Well then that proves it, it is true and that is also why they are right and then that just goes to show you then, eh?
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Old 07-29-2014, 11:54 AM
 
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And you have nothing to say about the quotes below? Typical leftist, the left can say and do what they want, but when a rightie does it...well it's wrong....don't beleive it, look at these quotes from an anti gunnner in this thread...yet nothing from you...why is that?







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What about hte abouve quotes? Why do you agree with them, or are you just being a true leftist, do as I say and not as I do...

Typical lefties....
Typical person who knows nothing about the people he is talking about. I'm actually one of the very pro gun folks on the board-in fact im probably more pro weapon ownership then the majority of those on the right. I just don't like idiocy.
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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"New GOP" passed to renew the Undetectable Firearms Act, which directly impacts 3D printed guns. Good job at paying attention, though
No it does not. I affected firearms in commence, not home made firearms...and if it did god luck enforcing it.
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:52 PM
 
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Typical person who knows nothing about the people he is talking about. I'm actually one of the very pro gun folks on the board-in fact im probably more pro weapon ownership then the majority of those on the right. I just don't like idiocy.
So, why did you call out a person on the right, when I clearly shown you someone on the left is doing the same thing? You have been in this thread since page 2 correct?

When did I call you anti gun? You don't need to make stuff up, to attempt to prove a non-point...
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Be careful what you wish for, the red fluid could end up coming from you and yours, anyone that has served in combat knows that bullets are not selectinve in those they destroy. Why is the right always has to suggest the killing of their fellow Americans and the violent overthrow of our freely elected government, do you not know that it does not make one a Patriot but instead sounds of Treason?
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If the government wants to regulate manufacturing they can and will, you elected them so you can voice your opinion on their actions in the voting booth, that is how it is done in the USA.
Maybe you should just hurry up and buy your printer and get it done before they do regulate it, or better yet use the same amount of money and buy several good firearms, maybe a good quality AR with sight and a nice dependable combat capable handgun that are made by professionals that stand by their work and give you a warranty to back it up.
I understand you fasination with the technology but as it stands you are better served simply purchasing what you need now and once the prices on printers go down (they will) you can get one and build your own as a hobby.
Yeah the left also speak of such actions...

Furthermore we are a Constitutional Republic, not a mobocracy just because 50.00001% of people elect a party side party can not violate the Constitution...

Really? So what does that make those elected to high office and violate the Constitution?

Yeah with 3D printing that is not really going to happen and even if they do they will be unable to enforce it.

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Old 07-29-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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No it does not. I affected firearms in commence, not home made firearms...and if it did god luck enforcing it.
You can't make 3D printed guns entirely out of plastic like some people have done. You have to have an arbitrary metal component on the gun so it can be picked up by a metal detector. If it doesn't, the gun is illegal and, I believe that possessing such guns is a felony.
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