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Old 07-31-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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Witty put a star on your forehead and go play with your legos.
Already did.
Too busy right now, making Cons even more moonbat crazy than they already are is far more entertaining a hobby.
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Old 07-31-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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Casper - you're the only one using the term "Nazi Communists". I distinctly said "Nazi's are "right-leaning" only when compared to Communists." Nazis and Communists compete as socialist ideologies - with one difference being internationalist versus nationalist (another being government ownership versus government control of the economy).

Again, those ideologies have nothing to do with the right wing in the USA (free market and individual freedom). And no, I'm not a "Nationalist" as you probably define the term, however I am a patriot who believes that Murica is the last best hope for freedom on earth.

You are, or should be, aware that the political terms "right" and "left" have different meanings at different times and places. "Right" was originally monarchist and "left" was Republican. While Europeans may see a huge difference between Nazis ("right") and Communists ("left"), to right-thinking Americans they are much the same: state-controlled authoritarian ideologies with no regard for individual freedom. We want nothing to do with either one of them. BTW, don't you people still have monarchies? How stupid is that?
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Old 07-31-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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Casper - you're the only one using the term "Nazi Communists". I distinctly said "Nazi's are "right-leaning" only when compared to Communists." Nazis and Communists compete as socialist ideologies - with one difference being internationalist versus nationalist (another being government ownership versus government control of the economy).

Again, those ideologies have nothing to do with the right wing in the USA (free market and individual freedom). And no, I'm not a "Nationalist" as you probably define the term, however I am a patriot who believes that Murica is the last best hope for freedom on earth.

You are, or should be, aware that the political terms "right" and "left" have different meanings at different times and places. "Right" was originally monarchist and "left" was Republican. While Europeans may see a huge difference between Nazis ("right") and Communists ("left"), to right-thinking Americans they are much the same: state-controlled authoritarian ideologies with no regard for individual freedom. We want nothing to do with either one of them. BTW, don't you people still have monarchies? How stupid is that?
Ok, I will buy that argument, but at the time Nazis were considered to be more right leaning than left.
No monarchies in Bavaria that I know of these days.
The reality is most Americans are neither truly right or left, most Americans distain extremists and can and do stand closer to the middle and lean slightly left or right depending on an issue. I would add that discussion boards are not a good method of determining the leanings of Americans because these types of boards tend to be dominated my those more extreme in their leanings since they are the ones most interested in politics in general and want to express their opinion.
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Old 07-31-2014, 12:54 PM
 
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Jeff Session is absolutely right...This radical treasonous socialist in the WH does not have the authority to bypass congress on immigration.

"show me a liberal and i'll eventually scratch you out a fascist"

Jeff Sessions: House Border Bill Is a 'Surrender To a Lawless President' | National Review Online
This bill is the chance for the Republicans to correct Obama's lawless changes made to immigration, and define these laws so Obama cannot subvert them.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:07 PM
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I don't know about you but every time I hear most politicians talk about illegal immigration I feel the average law abiding American citizen is being thrown under the bus. What is so complicated about just obeying the laws already on the books. Many people coming here illegally should have no change in the law. What needs to change is to enforce the law for a change.

And if what I saw about the two senators from Arizona is true they need to be handed a copy of the constitution and learn what rights it gives to real American citizens. Our tax dollars are being used to transport these "children" from place to place and it is our RIGHT to know what our government is doing while using our tax dollars. They need to get their heads screwed on straight.

They also have a right not to like what our government is illegally doing and they have a right to protest because what is happening should not be happening. Those children should have never been allowed in this country. Mexico let them stream across their country therefore they are Mexico's problem.
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