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Old 08-01-2014, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Because you don't have the 1 to 1 correlation anymore and you are not limited to a physical presence so you can hire expertise from anywhere in the world.

Imagine French being taught by a language teacher from France.
You'd still need highly qualified professors and any legitimate college (read: not a diploma mill) will need to do so to retain their accreditation.

The idea of wide spread outsourcing of education is pretty far fetched.

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Online classes aren't bound by the same student:teacher ratio state mandates.
That depends on location and the level being taught. Still, there is a sort of natural limit built in as one professor can only handle so many students on a practical level.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You'd still need highly qualified professors and any legitimate college (read: not a diploma mill) will need to do so to retain their accreditation.

The idea of wide spread outsourcing of education is pretty far fetched.

That depends on location and the level being taught. Still, there is a sort of natural limit built in as one professor can only handle so many students on a practical level.
Hey..I'm talking K-12 here, not college.
While they say they are teaching 21st century skills they are fighting against the schools moving to 21st century settings.

During the bad winter storms we had there were a few progressive schools that had their classes via virtual classroom.
The rest...stay home and make the days up in June.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:40 AM
 
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The question isn't soda fountains but rather who is operating them.
What difference does that make?
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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Hey..I'm talking K-12 here, not college.
While they say they are teaching 21st century skills they are fighting against the schools moving to 21st century settings.
Online K-12 schooling is NEVER going to be that widespread.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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So the franchisees who can't afford to pay their employees 2-3 dollars more per hour (let's be honest...a $15.00/hr minimum wage isn't happening) are now going to spend tens of thousands of dollars on new kiosks and automation systems? OK then.
Yes, because it's cheaper in the long run.

Have you ever run a business or done any long term financial planning of any kind? You don't choose something that costs you more over time than the alternatives, unless there's a very significant benefit to choosing the alternative or you have no other choice. Those that CAN automate, WILL automate. It's a financial inevitability.

As for the affordability aspect, it's relatively easy to take out a loan for capital investment in a business (buying equipment). You DON'T take out a loan to "pay your employees 2-3 dollars more per hour". So yes, restaurant owners certainly have the option to automate over raising wages, and from a financial standpoint, it's probably a lot easier to automate than to raise wages while still trying to make ends meet with the rest of the business.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:42 AM
 
Location: california
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Like the red box for videos I can see fully automated stands that dispense burgers on demand.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You'd still need highly qualified professors and any legitimate college (read: not a diploma mill) will need to do so to retain their accreditation.

The idea of wide spread outsourcing of education is pretty far fetched.

That depends on location and the level being taught. Still, there is a sort of natural limit built in as one professor can only handle so many students on a practical level.
Well there are a few progressive schools doing it.
The training for it must start early (2-3rd grade).

Now think of all the support staff that wouldn't be needed anymore...
You wouldn't need all those specialists you have today at each school.

Schools could then serve as testing centers, remedial help centers, etc.

I've come to embrace online education because it opens up so much more to you then the limitations of having only the local CC/University.
I've done online tests. I've gone to the testing centers to take mid terms. It's pretty flexible too...3-5 days including evenings/weekends.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Have you ever run a business or done any long term financial planning of any kind? You don't choose something that costs you more over time than the alternatives, unless there's a very significant benefit to choosing the alternative or you have no other choice. Those that CAN automate, WILL automate. It's a financial inevitability.
And there are many benefits to paying your employees a higher wage.

- Better employee loyalty
- The ability to choose from a better pool of potential employees
- Employees likely to put that money back into the company through purchases.

Those are just to name a few. Henry Ford realized this. Costco realizes this. Costco spends way more on employees than Sam's Club and absolutely crushes Sam's in overall sales while still maintaining similar profit margins.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:49 AM
 
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What difference does that make?
Wow, O.K.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Good ruling. Now go after Wal Mart please.
Yes! God forbid those without any disposable income actually have the opportunity to buy the things they need at prices they can afford. Unionize Wal*Mart NOW!

So when WM gets unionized and they start going after Target (you do understand that the reason they're after WM has nothing whatsoever to do with employee treatment or wages, and that the actual reason is because they're the biggest private employer in the country and therefore represent the largest number of dollars in the union bank account, right?), will you go from hating on WM to hating on Target? Most WM haters swoon over Target and how awesome-o they are. It'll be quite a dilemma for those people - do they continue to dry hump their closest Target store, or do they continue to let their masters determine where their animosity is focused? They won't be able to do both...
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