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Contrary to popular belief, the Netherlands has never legalized weed. It's illegal but possession and retail sale of small amounts is not prosecuted. Retail sales tax is collected but marijuana is not taxed separately or differently than say, coffee, in the shops where both are sold. Since it's technically illegal, the govt. cannot track or impose higher taxes on weed than on coffee.
Production and distribution is often vigorously prosecuted in the Netherlands. Production and wholesale distribution are still done exclusively by the criminal element, the same as in most of the U.S.
The approach taken by Colorado, legalizing and completely regulating production, distribution, and use, seems to be a sensible one as it removes the criminal element and allows enforcement to concentrate on keeping out of the hands of minors. It also allows CO to tax marijuana at a much higher rate than other products.
Only time will tell how this will play out.
This is what I've tried to tell the prohibitionists on these threads regarding cannabis legalization! Decriminalization only means that you won't be prosecuted for possession of small amounts or use, but it is still NOT equal to legalization, because the black market still controls all of the distribution and cultivation (unless it's a small amount). Decriminalization is nothing more than a band aid, and doesn't solve the black market issue. The only way to solve it, is full legalization! In fact, it never should have been prohibited in the first place. But that is what happens when you have a bunch of whiny special interests with deep pockets with the help of the bureacrats in gaming the system to suit them.
Legalize does not mean it is a moral code.
Murder is not legalized but freedom is.
the freedom to kill someone is not legal because it removes the right to someone else's life, and liberty.
Understand that personal choices are not legalized or legal government laws.
Natural laws of men to men and interaction in social and or economics are set by the laws of nature.
If you want to smoke pot fine, and while your high and you kill someone or get in a accident etc etc YOU are still responsible for your actions period. SO as a person who currently before it was LEGALIZED was smoking pot illegally which was probably 30% of the population are not going to continue to do it without police coming to raid their house for growing and or smoking it. ALL other laws still apply.
* Jump out of airplanes for the thrill of it
* Eat cheeseburgers that have 1 pound of meat
* Have sex with anyone
* Buy tickets that lose you money on average
- It is legal to jump out an airplaine for the thrill. It's called skydiving.
-It is legal to each a cheeseburger with 1lb of meat
-It is legal to have sex with anyone so long as both parties consent
-The last one I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about!
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Originally Posted by LibertyandJusticeforAll
Legalize does not mean it is a moral code.
Murder is not legalized but freedom is.
the freedom to kill someone is not legal because it removes the right to someone else's life, and liberty.
Understand that personal choices are not legalized or legal government laws.
Natural laws of men to men and interaction in social and or economics are set by the laws of nature.
If you want to smoke pot fine, and while your high and you kill someone or get in a accident etc etc YOU are still responsible for your actions period. SO as a person who currently before it was LEGALIZED was smoking pot illegally which was probably 30% of the population are not going to continue to do it without police coming to raid their house for growing and or smoking it. ALL other laws still apply.
so let me get this straight!!! if a 657 pound person riding a wall mart scooter that pigged out on ice cream and candy for 6 years accidently falls off his or her scooter and crushes a small child in the isle??? should he or she be held accountable even if it was an accident?? they knew what they were doing when they were stuffing their face with ice cream and candy for 6 years.. would that be no difference than a DUI?? the person that gets behind the wheel knew before hand what the were doing before they got intoxicated..
* Jump out of airplanes for the thrill of it
* Eat cheeseburgers that have 1 pound of meat
* Have sex with anyone
* Buy tickets that lose you money on average
Great strawman argument. Most are actually able to be used. Skydiving is legal and paratroopers have done it for a long time. While I don't agree with it, you can buy 1+ pound cheeseburgers just look at the Heart Attack Grill who will coat it in lard. Having sex is legal so long as it is consensual and both parties are old enough to give consent. The last one I imagine is a slam on the lottery which people already do.
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IMO, ALL laws against drug use should be repealed.
If YOU want to put that junk in your body, go for it!
However, drug use should be an automatic DNR in your medical records. You will NOT be resuscitated, you gonna DIE! NO extreme life saving measures will be used, EVER, to "save the life" of a drug addict, since it is obvious the addict wants to commit suicide anyway.
Going to say that for prescription drugs, many of which have side effects far worse than a little silly weed, too or are they just fine because BigPharma gets its cut?
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It's just a harmless plant, a weed at that. What in God's name is the big deal with legalization of dope?
it will hurt the jail system, alcohol companies. big pharma companies, DuPont, and many other greedy institutions..
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