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Old 08-03-2014, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I remember that I read it somewhere (don't remember the source) Palestine has a right to an existence, with sufficient infrastructure and human rights for its citizens.

Israel has the right to defend itself, and to be recognized by neighbors.

Jews or the Palestinians are both human beings, they deserve to be treated with human dignity. But let's not pretend war crime (if there are any which I am sure there are some) are committed by ONLY Israel. Saying that wouldn't be fair.

Innocent children die, this the nature of war. But it looks like nobody can stop the war but everybody is just eager to condemn.
War should be condemned, that is without question.

Who is right and who is wrong? Should Palestinian children be bombed because of the evil deeds of Hamas? How is that fair? Because it's 'war'?

Once upon a time Americanism was for the protection of the innocent. Chocolate bars and bread while Dresden was destroyed. It seems that our country has comfortably veered from that and become more flippant with human life. Children in Palestine, children at the border. **Pfffft** Who cares.

 
Old 08-03-2014, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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With the exception of the last sentence, I can agree with you on this.
Good. I guess "innocent children die because war is dirty" is still too hard for you to swallow. It is okay.

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War should be condemned, that is without question.

Who is right and who is wrong? Should Palestinian children be bombed because of the evil deeds of Hamas? How is that fair? Because it's 'war'?

Once upon a time Americanism was for the protection of the innocent. Chocolate bars and bread while Dresden was destroyed. It seems that our country has comfortably veered from that and become more flippant with human life. Children in Palestine, children at the border. **Pfffft** Who cares.
Israel is the ONLY country who ever committed war crimes. You happy now?
 
Old 08-03-2014, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Kennedy Heights, Ohio. USA
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And Hamas is celebrating.

They are the ones who are using children as human shields.
A lot of Israelis are celebrating also. They see dead children as dead terrorists of the future that will grow up to be threats to Israel existence. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...emium-1.608690 Following that line of reasoning Israel would probably nuke Gaza and the West Bank if the following radioactive fallout would not affect Israel also.
 
Old 08-03-2014, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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Evidently the "collateral" damage in Gaza is much worse than Israel around 1600 killed, mostly civilians and a rather large amount of children. How many Israeli citizens were killed maybe 6, and that required this type of response. The Israeli's are obviously using artillery rather than infantry to attack Hamas in order to reduce loss of military personnel. Palestinian lives are evidently cheaper than military losses, better to level civilian areas rather than lose military.

Only 160 IDF lost vs several hundred civilians says it all, surgical strikes is complete nonsense.

Netanyahu says "a man has to do what a man has to do", well time to show some courage rather than lobbing artillery into civilian neighborhoods.
It is warfare. Netanyahu is taking care of his people. Hammas is foolish. Hammas may score some small pr victory but Netanyahu will win the war. Harry Truman probably killed more women and children with two strikes than any single leader in history but the Japanese unconditionally surrendered. In Truman's time Americans went to war to WIN.
 
Old 08-03-2014, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I have a question, how do the anti-Israel people think Israel should resolve this?
It is in the title of this thread. The new generation will no longer give unconditional support to Israel.
 
Old 08-03-2014, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Israel is the ONLY country who ever committed war crimes. You happy now?
So that makes it okay? In your mind and your view?
 
Old 08-03-2014, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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It is in the title of this thread. The new generation will no longer give unconditional support to Israel.
and giving unconditional support to ANYTHING in this world will be foolish. But I honestly don't believe Israel has ever received any unconditional support if you really think about it.
 
Old 08-03-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Pa
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It is in the title of this thread. The new generation will no longer give unconditional support to Israel.
Israel never deserved it. If Iran used such extreme measures on one of their neighbors what would we say?
Serbia sort of answers that question.
There should always be some restraint when the collateral damage is so high.
How can the entire world be wrong and Israel is right?
 
Old 08-03-2014, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Israel never deserved it. If Iran used such extreme measures on one of their neighbors what would we say?
Serbia sort of answers that question.
There should always be some restraint when the collateral damage is so high.
How can the entire world be wrong and Israel is right?
Exactly. If the Israeli-Gaza story was told without names, many of those who support Israel now would have their eyes opened.
 
Old 08-03-2014, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Israel is such a tiny country, but they are strong. Let's get real, Israel is surrounded by people who hate them.

ll always support and defend the Israelis and their right to live on their own land. I blame British who are the root cause for Israel Palestine problem.
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