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Only an idiot would claim that Palestine is the aggressor in this conflict. Prior to the British handing over Palestine to the Jews, there was very little conflict between the two groups. Learn some history.
Historically Palestinian Arabs attacked Palestinian Jews in 1920, 1929 and between 1936-1939 when the British controlled the area. So I think it is you who need to learn some history.
Historically Palestinian Arabs attacked Palestinian Jews in 1920, 1929 and between 1936-1939 when the British controlled the area. So I think it is you who need to learn some history.
The history, as you know it, is twisted. The British mandate following WWI created a turmoil in the region (and not unexpected). Now do you understand why your history started in 1920? It was also time for "PLO" version of Jewish population in the land to bring Haganah to the forefront (the black panther-like organization was already existing at the time). By 1931, the "Hamas" version would take over (Irgun). These were militant groups fighting each other.
May be though, you feel that if your land was being split/taken away, you'd basically just move on with your life. Surprisingly then, it is kinda crazy how you show up to defend EVERY Israeli move that you wouldn't for your own land.
And they shouldn't be, on Israel's terms. They should be under the terms accepted by the very organization that enabled division of the land.
List the 5%.
That is the best you can do because without assumptions, you wouldn't even register.
The major sticking point was "right of return". If Israel gives right of return and citizenship to descendants of Arabs who once lived there, there would be an arab majority in Israel, essentially ENDING Israel. That is a non starter. What is the point of a 2 state solution when you really end up with just 1 state?
The major sticking point was "right of return". If Israel gives right of return and citizenship to descendants of Arabs who once lived there, there would be an arab majority in Israel, essentially ENDING Israel. That is a non starter. What is the point of a 2 state solution when you really end up with just 1 state?
Aah! So, the problem was with taking away someone's land, and refusing to let them return because then they would become the majority? Sounds like a two-ethnic solution rather than two-state.
Aah! So, the problem was with taking away someone's land, and refusing to let them return because then they would become the majority? Sounds like a two-ethnic solution rather than two-state.
The question how far back in time does one go as the Jews have rights to this land since Biblical times which is way before the current Palestinian Arabs.
The question how far back in time does one go as the Jews have rights to this land since Biblical times which is way before the current Palestinian Arabs.
As well as between 1948 and now. It wasn't all that long ago since we took land from the Indians and from Mexico. How long does someone have to be on a piece of land before it is theirs? And who gets to decide that arbitrary cut off?
Also, these are mostly descendants, not the original people who lived there. Maybe we should pay descendants of slaves reparations then?
The question how far back in time does one go as the Jews have rights to this land since Biblical times which is way before the current Palestinian Arabs.
Therein lies the problem: You promote religious warfare, and expect peace in return.
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Originally Posted by AnesthesiaMD
As well as between 1948 and now. It wasn't all that long ago since we took land from the Indians and from Mexico. How long does someone have to be on a piece of land before it is theirs? And who gets to decide that arbitrary cut off?
It sounds like you would like to do just that. So, how long? A generation? Two generations? And is there a period over which taking over is to be considered illegal?
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