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View Poll Results: Should we stop sending people/aid to Ebola infected nations?
Yes 92 42.59%
No 95 43.98%
Other 17 7.87%
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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The average IQ in Liberia is 67. Let's just say they're not known for their intellectual prowess.

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You should understand that Liberia was created by the United States as a place to dump freed slaves in the early 19th Century. This is why Liberia flys the Star and Stripes and calls its capital Monrovia (named after President James Monroe who backed the effort to create Liberia). Freed American blacks who returned to Africa (Liberia) were an elite who lorded over indigenous blacks. Liberia became very valuable when a man named Charles Goodyear learned how to vulcanize rubber and make it useful. Goodyear and Firestone found Liberia was an excellent place to grow rubber trees and set up vast plantations which needed cheap (you couldn't call em slaves) labor who were usually treated just like blacks in old Dixie because that was where a lot of plantation bosses came from. The Freedman elite took middle level management positions in th Plantation Nation and Liberia became famous for its brutal treatment of native Africans who in the late 1970s rebelled and destroyed this little bit of Americana on the West African shore. The result is a failed state showing how good we build nations. .

 
Old 10-03-2014, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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How contagious is Ebola for persons in the US and MOST 1st world countries? Much less than HIV.

Take a look at the hygiene in the countries where Ebola is a problem ... even the poorest in the US live under better conditions.

These people need to learn you can't pee, pop, drink, and wash clothes using the same water.

They might actually learn how to wash more frequently is they had (1) plumbing, (2) electricity might also help and lastly treating the water with a powerful oxidizer like bleach might help. Bleach has to be imported into Liberia you know. Only 150 years ago many Americans didn't wash do the laundry or even drink clean water or drink any water and as a result life expectancy was about 40 just like this corner of West Africa.
 
Old 10-03-2014, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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You should understand that Liberia was created by the United States as a place to dump freed slaves in the early 19th Century. This is why Liberia flys the Star and Stripes and calls its capital Monrovia (named after President James Monroe who backed the effort to create Liberia). Freed American blacks who returned to Africa (Liberia) were an elite who lorded over indigenous blacks. Liberia became very valuable when a man named Charles Goodyear learned how to vulcanize rubber and make it useful. Goodyear and Firestone found Liberia was an excellent place to grow rubber trees and set up vast plantations which needed cheap (you couldn't call em slaves) labor who were usually treated just like blacks in old Dixie because that was where a lot of plantation bosses came from. The Freedman elite took middle level management positions in th Plantation Nation and Liberia became famous for its brutal treatment of native Africans who in the late 1970s rebelled and destroyed this little bit of Americana on the West African shore. The result is a failed state showing how good we build nations. .
Thanks. I do understand that. I already knew the history of Liberia but it's still interesting to ponder.

Liberia is a tragically destitute country - but then so are many of the Western African countries which weren't founded by the US or colonized by the US, as well.
 
Old 10-03-2014, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Why are they bringing infected people to America where we have one of the worst medical system in the world, according to lefties?

Why not take them to Cuba?
Back in the 1970s Cuban troops were in much of central Africa (Angola, Congo Brazzaville, Gabon and Tanzania) and places like Guinea, Guinea-Bissou and Cape Verde Islands) fighting peoples wars of liberation and to help socialist regimes getting paid for this by Moscow. They were there when both Ebola and HIV broke out and Cuban troops brought both back to Cuba. They gave the Cuban government fits but the Cubans managed to control both before millions of Cubans were infected. The Cuban health authorities might be one of the few who can provide good advice on how to fight and control this disease in a place like West Africa for rural Cuba is much like West Africa. If we would just get off of our high horses and have an honest discussion with them. It might be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
 
Old 10-03-2014, 10:24 PM
 
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Oh, good, the consolidated thread, when the criticism of Obola gets too close for comfort.
 
Old 10-03-2014, 10:57 PM
 
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No kidding, where were we.
 
Old 10-03-2014, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Carmichael, CA
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The most likely scenario is a patient with a false negative test who was presumed to have another diagnosis.
He was an OB--he was only delivering babies. None of the mothers tested positive for Ebola, none had symptoms. The CDC investigated and couldn't determine how he had caught it.
 
Old 10-03-2014, 11:12 PM
 
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Which is obviously also an additional factor to be considered by the general population beyond the degree of contagion.

I work in a major hospital clinical laboratory. As does my husband...he has a microbiology specialty and will be performing Ebola testing if ordered in our area. We are not worried. But we are concerned.

Be careful. The usual cautions apply...do not shake hands and then bring your hands to your face. Body fluids on that hand can transfer to yours and then enter your nose or mouth. That is much easier said than done so be very aware.
How long does it take to get the test results back from an Ebola test?
My understanding is that it's a blood test. Is this something that takes several days?
 
Old 10-03-2014, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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He was an OB--he was only delivering babies. None of the mothers tested positive for Ebola, none had symptoms. The CDC investigated and couldn't determine how he had caught it.
I understand that. I was just speculating that a patient may have had a false negative test.
 
Old 10-03-2014, 11:19 PM
 
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Told you..Stand by for info..

Its on Fox right now..
Whatever. We can't be a paranoid nation like we were with the aids epidemic.
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