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Old 08-13-2014, 11:24 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948 View Post
Great post
The entire nation needs 12 step
Debtors anon and coda
We want to tell everybody else how to run their life but can't run our own
Absolutely. Americans aren't fit to tell others how to live.

 
Old 08-13-2014, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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Default What am I talking about?

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Here we go again with the partisan bull****.

This ain't about the liberal/conservative dichotomy DAMMIT! Enough of that unimaginative crap

Every president over the last century has been drunk with the expanded powers of the Executive Branch that war after war has given him. War weakens the notion of 3 coequal branches of government, and our Congress has long ago abrogated their responsibilities when it comes to the power to make war and stop the United States from taking on a perpetually belligerent foreign policy that keeps us in conflict.

They've also sat silent while we aggressively overthrew elected governments, assassinated foreign politicians, and held down the aspirations of poor people in developing countries.

Now what's liberal or conservative about that?




Ha!
What in the hell are you talking about?
Just bull sh-t like most people. Not you. You nailed the truth!

HA ! HA !
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:14 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Absolutely. Americans aren't fit to tell others how to live.
Fitness is another issue
Telling others how to do it aka unsolicited advice is bad form but not a crime
But invading other countries to help them is what I meant by sick behavior
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:38 PM
 
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You want a simple answer? The Military Industrial Complex has now become part of our Economy after WW2. Why do we still have bases in Japan or South Korea? The US seems to have a complex to fix the World in their own eye...Pinochet, Noriega ,Saddam , Duvalier in Haiti or the Shah of Iran? All of we supported until they stopped listening to their "puppet master" ala the US. Then we wonder why 911 happened!

In the early part of the 20th. Century Americans became "Isolationists" of course 2 World Wars changed that mentality. It's usually Conservatives who are the "War Mongers" liberating people from "tyranny" across the World!
Like another poster alluded to in a separate thread.

There is a difference between the citizens, RNC and DNC.

The DNC and RNC are on the same page.
Liberal and Conservative citizens are not.

Politicians and their Big Money Backers can go to Hell
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:43 PM
 
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Like another poster alluded to in a separate thread.

There is a difference between the citizens, RNC and DNC.

The DNC and RNC are on the same page.
Liberal and Conservative citizens are not.

Politicians and their Big Money Backers can go to Hell
If that were the case there would not have been the huge fight over Obamacare, there would not have been a government shutdown over the budget, and there would not have been the problems with immigration reform.
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:46 PM
 
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If we weren't spreading American values and footprints around the world, someone else would be spreading theirs. It's been done throughout human history and it's the nature of empires. They don't stop growing until they do.
Spreading Crony Capitalism, Political Puppets, Propping up Dictators, overthrowing Democracies and Extortion Rackets via the IMF, and best of all, the top .%5 reap the majority of the gains from all this. What is not to like?

Many other developed countries seem to do just fine without this Big Stick payed by the tax payers.

Why should I and many other citizens of this country support throwing my tax dollars toward bloated parasites that engorge themselves on my dollars and my fellow American's lives?
 
Old 08-13-2014, 08:54 PM
 
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If that were the case there would not have been the huge fight over Obamacare, there would not have been a government shutdown over the budget, and there would not have been the problems with immigration reform.
Sorry, but I do not buy their theatrics.
Big Pharma and Insurance were at the top of the list of Donors to Obama and it was going to be shoved down our throats rather we like it or not.

The same theatrics from Obama's script about Hope and Change and Reining in Corruption in DC and on Wall Street which never came to fruition. It is in your face if you have eyes to see it.

IT WILL NOT be taken away if a "Republican" gets into power because it has already been bought and paid for by the lobbyists.


Notice NOT ONCE did any of the politicians or their backers discuss how to combat rising costs?
Of course not. It was a fight on who was going to pay for the elevated costs since the lobbyists had already bought the influence.
 
Old 08-14-2014, 03:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The US military industrial complex is running this formerly great country into the ground. We pss away more money on Israel and they never did anything to deserve it. It would be better to deal with our epidemic of obesity, and lack of education. Our forefathers would not be happy with the way our reputation has been trashed from inside our borders. We have sold out America for the promise of an easier life, and what we get in return is a landscape peppered with junk food, malls, cheap crap from China, urban blight, increased crime. And drumroll : we are hated by much of the world.
uhm so is the welfare industrial complex and the medical industrial complex

we spend (federally) more dollars on Medicaid/medicare than we do on the defensebudget
 
Old 08-14-2014, 07:08 PM
 
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To riot is a course of action taken by people around the world who are oppressed and no other means effects change. Example : Egypt. If something is not done to stop the aggressive use of force, when people who are not suspected of a crime, not involved in criminal activity, are going about their daily lives and are intruded on by police who escalate violence and crime against them and then, police departments support and spin the narrative of overly aggressive tactics, supported by rubber stamp review boards, and courts overwhelmingly offer no solution to rights under constitutional protection, no political ( from any party) leader steps up in defense of the people but makes statements that there is no reason for violence against police, when it should be said that police should not be committing escalation of violence against citizens engaged in lawful conduct and without articulated suspicion or probable cause detain any person. When the government places itself and claims rights to itself then places the rights of it's citizens farther down the list, riot is often the result. Expect it to continue and increase in proportion to the increasing loss of life by innocent citizens harmed by the militarization of police when they are trained to shoot first then question. Hopefully a camera will capture them when a jack booted thug kicks in your teeth least he claim you are a boot licker.

Until this problem is addressed by a united people political commentary will not be effective. We suffer equally no mater the party in power. Lets use some common since and not support division that leads to riots.

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Old 08-14-2014, 08:25 PM
 
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I'll never vote Dem. or Rep. or for anyone who takes bribes like they do. The only one I've heard that is offering anything acceptable and won't take bribes is Jesse Ventura and he hasn't said he will run and likely won't. The old right v left is so boring and uninteresting. Comic book politics offer more and accomplish more. When Hillary gets the nomination I'm wearing ear plugs for sanity because lessening to either side is hopelessly predictable.
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