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Old 08-16-2014, 07:25 PM
 
Location: USA
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I would not disagree that alcohol is worse than MJ, but it's kind of like saying that I'd rather be shot with a .32 ACP than a .45 ACP. Both MJ and booze are going to result in brain damage with long term use, and neither should be recommended.

Like Pknopp says, if you wish to damage your own brain it's your choice, but the problem is that under collective medicine I end up on the paying end. I have better things to do with my money than to pay for your bad choices.
Only when dealing with those under 21. Neither are recommended for kids. That's a parenting issue.



Alcohol and cigarettes will kill you for their abuse where as marijuana doesn't carry the same risks.



I don't ever want to deal with an alcoholic again.
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Old 08-16-2014, 10:31 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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Yes, I have posted on this extensively.
I've moved from anti-nanny-state to pro-nanny-state.

If I am required to pay for the health consequences of any behavior, whether drugs, ice cream or football. I want the ability to impose controls on said behavior. If you pay for the consequences, you do what you want. If I pay, I want a say. What's wrong with that?

ice cream, cookies, candy, soda are not illegal and people don't get sent to jail for possessing them for abusing and wrecking their body's with said fattening foods.. but people that smoke pot do get sent to jail for a far less destructive substance... so I will be waiting for you're new thread to have them banned..
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Old 08-17-2014, 06:47 AM
 
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well based on that statement I hope you are on the bandwagon to have all fattening foods banned? especially ice cream, cookies, candy and soda!!! you are paying for all them fatties you know.. weed doesn't even come close to the cost of obesity
I disagree with someone being able to go on disability for being overweight also.
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Old 08-17-2014, 06:48 AM
 
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You obviously have no personal experience with addiction and have to rely on what others tell you. Ditto the author of the article.
The article is based upon research. What two people have experienced is irrelevant.
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Old 08-17-2014, 10:59 AM
 
Location: NJ
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It's no wonder why so many marijuana legalization proponents from the left as well as the right believe sales of it should be limited to people aged 21 and over. Hopefully, legalization can work to make marijuana less available to teens, due to them being asked to show ID before trying to buy.
Sure just like alcohol and ciggy sales....that is a fanciful daydream.

Let's alter the function of someone's central nervous system and ask them to behave responsibly.

Best leave that justification at home and find another more realistic to support your cause.
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Old 08-17-2014, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The article is based upon research. What two people have experienced is irrelevant.
Then tell me - I will presume you are a straight white man.

How does it feel to be a gay black woman?

BTW - I can tell you how it feels to be an addict. I have been clean for 28 years, but I am still an addict. I am just inactive unless I use again. Today I have a choice to use or not. If I use the substance will take the choice away from me.

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Old 08-17-2014, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Out in Colarado , school kids are showing up with edible pot that they stole off mom or grandma.

Lot of pot users have been blowing themselves up with this THC oil which apparently is highly flammable.

Pot does affect the human brain in negative ways as well as the lungs and other parts of the body. It is one thing to argue for legalization but to say pot has no negative impacts on people isn't true.
People are experiencing explosions trying to extract hash oil from the unsmokeable pieces of the plants they grow legally. There are companies that are licensed to extract hash oil, but they are required to have strong ventilation systems as part of the extraction equipment.

You will never eliminate completely the possibility of children getting marijuana from their homes, any more than you will eliminate alcohol or tobacco availability. But my gyess is that legalization will make it a lot less available on the street, which is where they are getting it now.
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Old 08-17-2014, 01:36 PM
 
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Then tell me - I will presume you are a straight white man.

How does it feel to be a gay black woman?
Jumping off the deep end I see. I agree that pot is not addicting in the same way as alcohol, it's as I say for some more of a psychological addiction but I believe you will agree with me that one can find many studies that show an addictive quality to alcohol. None of them will explain what it feels like to be a gay black women.

Yours is a argumentum ad absurdum .

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BTW - I can tell you how it feels to be an addict. I have been clean for 28 years, but I am still an addict. I am just inactive unless I use again. Today I have a choice to use or not. If I use the substance will take the choice away from me.
Sure, I wouldn't disagree. I knew a guy who was an air traffic controller. It was a very stressful job and after work he drank. He became an alcoholic but was able to quit drinking. He often said he wished he had the option to smoke a little after work as he believed it would have been far less harmful. I don't disagree.
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Old 08-17-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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lol if you think most pot users are going to willingly pay taxes on it you probably are wrong about that. The street business is only going to get better now that is being legalized.
So is most tobacco business conducted in the street these days to escape high taxes.
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Old 08-17-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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So is most tobacco business conducted in the street these days to escape high taxes.
It is a growing problem in places like NYC where the taxes are high. If cigarettes were as high as legal weed, yes there would be a lot.

At the legal price we see right now it's not going ot curtail the illegal market which should be the goal.
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