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I cant support anyone whoever it is, or stand behind someone that killed someone.. even if they say its the right thing to do. Killing is wrong period!
Shoot out his legs instead, cripple him for life so he doesnt go out stealing anything anymore. That would be a smarter move.
You may or may not have experience with firearms & shooting, but what you suggest is much more difficult to do than you think. Especially when it's a moving target & you only have seconds to deal with it. In the military (and yes the police), you are trained to shoot center of mass (chest area) because that gives you the best chance to stop the threat that's coming at you. Even if you were a good enough marksman to hit someone running at you in the leg, there's a very good chance that might not stop him and he could still be on you. Then it's too late.
I cant support anyone whoever it is, or stand behind someone that killed someone.. even if they say its the right thing to do. Killing is wrong period!
Shoot out his legs instead, cripple him for life so he doesnt go out stealing anything anymore. That would be a smarter move.
This is getting really exhausting, however I'll try again. PO's are taught to shoot for center mass to stop the threat. When you see law enforcement on TV shoot the gun out of the perps hand, that's just what TV cops do.
If a cop shoots or kills a person it's because they deserve it. Period. Cop are well trained and know what they are doing and if they stop you its because you broke a law.
And we should use military against those "people". They've done nothing of value for this country. Can anyone name one? That's what I thought. Name one cop that killed the wrong person? I can't think of any. And racism, like sexism, is dead.
I don't think we have enough facts to make that call yet.
If ballistics / forensics finds that the kid was probably on his knees (or going down on his knees) with his hands up, after giving up fleeing, then the officer made a huge mistake.
If he was charging the cop, then Michael Brown made a huge mistake.
Either way, there are no winners here. This is a bad situation and it just keeps getting worse.
You make a good point, and you could well be right. What many people have a problem with, however, is that the president (and others in his administration) seems perfectly willing "to make that call" before all the facts are in. Again.
Because I believe in the police force? No. You're just a liberal supporter that's anti-white. You do know that's whites are under attack in this nation right? Systematically denied jobs and homes just for being white in ways far worse than blacks have ever been treated and that's a fact.
This is getting really exhausting, however I'll try again. PO's are taught to shoot for center mass to stop the threat. When you see law enforcement on TV shoot the gun out of the perps hand, that's just what TV cops do.
The problem is, this is a tangent where the core issue is lost because someone with unrealistic understanding of deadly force scenarios talks about 'shooting the leg' and authoritarian cop apologist as*holes seize on that to 'make the point' that shooting guns out of hands isn't realistic, thus distracting away from the fact that me may have not been justified to shoot in the first place and their entire position is awful from the get-go.
We agree. If cops are justified to shoot, they're justified to aim at the center of mass.
The question here is whether or not they were justified to shoot in the first place and what dispensation we give them to 'keep shooting' after a person is down, with their hands up, whatever.
The Internet Gun Forum Tactical Expert narrative is that "YOU KEEP SHOOTING UNTIL THE THREAT IS NEUTRALIZED SO IF THEY'RE DOWN, KEEP SHOOTING THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!" but that may be as unrealistic and legally untenable as "IF YOU SHOOT 'EM OUTSIDE, DRAG 'EM BACK IN!!!"
The fact of the matter is, a jury of 12 may find that a person down/with their hands up no longer constitutes a threat and thus, continuing to shoot them may be criminally actionable.
Use of force theorists have theories but as we've seen in cases like Michael Dunn, etc, theories and scenarios don't mean a jury will believe you or find your narrative credible.
I appreciate the right to protest, but why would anyone with common sense support a would be cop killer?
Why would anyone with common sense support a killer cop? After all, no one, except for the eye witnesses, knows what truly happened, and who's guilty and who's innocent.
Mistrust between Ferguson's citizens and its police force was already present prior to the death of Michael Brown. The outrage didn't come out of nowhere, this case was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
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There were two possible outcomes in this case. 1. Michael Brown gets the gun and probably kills Darren Wilson. The taxpayers have to support him on death row as he exhausts his appeals. 2. Darren Wilson defends his life as a police officer and shoots and kills the perpetrator who injured him and tried to get his gun.
Why were there only two possible outcomes? And why is Michael Brown automatically in the wrong in both scenarios?
Why would anyone with common sense support a killer cop? After all, no one, except for the eye witnesses, knows what truly happened, and who's guilty and who's innocent.
Mistrust between Ferguson's citizens and its police force was already present prior to the death of Michael Brown. The outrage didn't come out of nowhere, this case was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Why were there only two possible outcomes? And why is Michael Brown automatically in the wrong in both scenarios?
Another post with no compelling argument to prove me wrong. You people make me laugh.
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