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Old 08-21-2014, 06:19 AM
 
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I don't know about this. I believe the situation in Ferguson was self-inflicted due to the boy being a thug. But an officer asking Americans not to challenge him? In what context? I think we all know not to physically challenge a police officer. But what about our rights? We have the right to inquire why we're being stopped or charged. We have the right to not let them in our homes. We have a right to see their badges. The problem with police officers is that they don't think THEY have to abide by the rules.
You have a right to question an officer and whatever actions they are taking at the moment, what you do not have the right to do is to lay your hands on one of them, the second you do that the officer has every right both legally and morally to lay his on you and use whatever force they deem to be required to get the situation back under control.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:48 AM
 
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Just had a police officer get fired and charged for shoplifting with his kids. He tried to use his badge to get off but they pressed charges. He threw away a job close to 50K a year over a couple hundred dollars in groceries. He had done it before and they knew him by description.
I think the Ferguson cop Wilson was justified in the shooting although I initially thought he may have needlessly provoked a confrontation with Brown. But I always suspected Brown of being an idiot and a goon.
You weed out bad police officers by taking money out of the entire departments pension funds, taking it from the coworkers and retirees alike. They'll get rid of the problem officers, the bad ones the hot heads and the stupid ones. They won't cover for them if it will take money out of their pockets.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:55 AM
 
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I agree with the general premise. If you don't slug a police officer, you're likely not to get shot.

Sounds like common sense to me.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:57 AM
 
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I don't know about this. I believe the situation in
Ferguson was self-inflicted due to the boy being a thug.
Translation = any black male.


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But an officer asking Americans not to challenge him? In what context? I think
we all know not to physically challenge a police officer. But what about our
rights? We have the right to inquire why we're being stopped or charged. We have
the right to not let them in our homes. We have a right to see their badges. The
problem with police officers is that they don't think THEY have to abide by the
rules.
Of course, those rights only apply to white people............
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:59 AM
 
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Agreed tho that "boy" who got offed in Ferguson was an 18 yo man who probably brought being shot in himself. Tho 6 shots fired; that scares me about the cop.
Of course he did. They always do.
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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The arrogance of this pig is astounding. Don't challenge me or my authority? Don't yell at me? If you cannot handle a citizen challenging you when you overstep your 'authority' you are not fit for law enforcement. Despite the government trampling on the constitution with impunity, Americans still do have the right to question authority, refuse illegal searches, and refuse to be hassled just for being a minority. Those of you using the word bully to describe him...that was a perfect word.

By the way, wtf is a professor of homeland security?
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:03 AM
 
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I agree with the general premise. If you don't slug a police officer, you're likely not to get shot.

Sounds like common sense to me.
So the penalty for assaulting a police officer is death? No trial or anything? Thanks for taking a break from bootlicking to post.
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:10 AM
 
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It's rare that any justice is found in our "justice" system when cops are the source of injustice.
Yes............
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:24 AM
 
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Let's face it, this cop worked in a bad, high crime area. The rules are different there than they are in Mayberry.

MB's problem is he probably didnt have a male role model to teach him that screwing with cops in Ferguson could get you dead real quick.
I don't know Brown or his father, and neither do you. But I venture to guess, as a big black man and the father of three enormous black sons, that he, and many other black males who have been fortunate enough to make it to middle age, that the message of not provoking a cop has been reinforced again and again through his life. Black people tell their children ad nauseum to be very deferential and careful when confronted in any way by law enforcement. I guarantee you that Brown had lots of males who warned him about provoking cops

What you probably do not realize is that it is very possible that Brown didn't do anything to provoke this cop - except exist while black. Ferguson, and the St. Louis area in general - is full of areas where racial tension between blacks and white is high and where many white or white-dominated communities see black people - all black people, but especially black men - as the enemy, and police see themselves as the first and last line of defense between their white suburban existence and that looming enemy. In all ways, it is a recipe for disaster.
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:27 AM
 
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BUT....the operate differently in bad, high crime areas full of CRIMINALS with murderous intent.

Many cities have 2 officers per car in high crime areas, one officer in cars in the suburbs and smaller towns.

Different rules.
Even in some of the worst areas in America - and I've been to them (Camden, North Philly, Chicago, South Central LA, Liberty City, South Bronx, New Orleans, Baltimore) the neighborhoods are NOT full of criminals with murderous intent. They certainly exist there, but most people are normal human beings just trying to live their lives.
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