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Again anyone who reads any posts in this thread will see validation if my first post.
When presented with overwhelming and systematic inequality in a nation with America's history, the reason for that inequality is very obvious.
But most people engage in the racist narrative.
This racist narrative has two sides.
One of the sides believes that inequalities exist because black people are broken and have these internal collective black racial failings. But if black people would fix themselves these inequalities would go away.
The other side believes that inequalities exist because black people are broken and have these internal black racial failings. But black people are too broken to be fixed.
That's all you'll get, a discussion about family structure, the all purpose catch word culture, and education.
But the reality is there is no where in which equality exists between black and white people.
At every type of family structure, every level of education, white people make more income and have more wealth on average again across the board. So the racial gap exists.
if every poor person from the US started sneaking into your country illegally would you like them? especially if they were draining resources and lowering wages? I doubt it. I don't hate mexican people at all. I hate mexico.
You're wasting your breath, they will never understand that and it doesn't fit into their agenda ....
Very sad to say the lease, that so many white Americans are in serious denial and dismiss the fact that there are serious problems in the United States regarding discrimination in employment, housing, etc when it comes to the MAJORITY black people.
Of course a single mother living in a rental whose family were only given opportunities 50 years ago will have only a tiny bit of wealth. Wealth is multi-generational and so is acquiring a middle-class mindset.
In this case, I think it would be a better comparison to compare:
1. The wealth gap of black and white two-parent homes.
2. The wealth gap of black and whites of similar income groups.
I do agree that the high (%) of single-parent homes is DEVASTATING the inner-city black community; and is the root to a lot of problems. Once this improves then things will look much less bleak and the next step would be for these people to buy homes in areas that hold their value well and are likely to gain equity.
I'm black and live in a middle-income suburban black neighborhood. Even though things aren't 100% perfect around here, it's a good area and living here does paint a picture of what the black community would be like if most black households were intact. For all these users so obsessed with black ppl, it should be an interesting trip to travel to a more stable black area:
- The only negative stereotype that is accurate around here is that a lot of teen boys feel the need to live up to a ghetto image (due to society's expectations). Welfare/programs, broken homes, gangs, murders, brawls and grown men speaking ebonics are either extremely rare or straight up non-existent.
Last edited by MemoryMaker; 08-24-2014 at 05:53 AM..
Your statement that the vast majority of black people reside in single parent homes is not correct.
In terms of the other statement about closing the income gap, this is a tacit acknowledgement which means there's a income gap that falls along racial lines that isn't eliminated by married couples.
Now a sane person might ask themselves, if there is no systematic racial discrimination against black people, how is it that all these income and wealth gaps along racial lines exists across the board.
Also, when comparing married couples, we have to think about what we are comparing.
So for instance if white married couples have a higher percentage of one of the spouses not working(which they do) then black married couples, the so called income gap narrowing is a statistical fiction that just shows that black couples have a higher percentage of two incomes than white married couples.
This doesn't even get to the real difference between white and black people which is household wealth. In fact, black married couples with the same incomes as white married couples at all income levels have significantly less wealth.
So my point remains which is saying two parent households eliminates the income and wealth gaps is wrong because they don't. What we find is that white couples make more money and have a lot more wealth than black couples across the board.
You just admitted that you have a poor understanding of the world.
Most black children live in single parent homes, period.
A study conducted by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found that 25.8 percent of American children are raised by a single parent, a number high above the 14.9 percent average seen in the other 26 countries surveyed. Among African-Americans the rate nearly tripled, with 72 percent of black children relying on a single parent.
Roughly 1 in 4 American children of all races live in a single parent home, nearly 3 in 4 African-American children live in a single parent home.
Now that you know the facts, perhaps it will clear up your other misconceptions.
As I said, during the past 25 years, 2 parent black homes are closing the income gap, while blacks as a whole (1 parent homes primarily) are falling further behind. Wealth is about income and what you choose to do with it. Working blacks are also more likely to have a pension (not counted as wealth) and not a 401K (counted as wealth).
Roughly 1 in 4 American children of all races live in a single parent home, nearly 3 in 4 African-American children live in a single parent home.
Now that you know the facts, perhaps it will clear up your other misconceptions.
As I said, during the past 25 years, 2 parent black homes are closing the income gap, while blacks as a whole (1 parent homes primarily) are falling further behind. Wealth is about income and what you choose to do with it. Working blacks are also more likely to have a pension (not counted as wealth) and not a 401K (counted as wealth).
Don't mix up "out of wedlock" with a child living in a single-parent home. Out of wedlock means a child born to parents unmarried at the time of birth.
- A lot of families wait until after the kids are born to get married.
- Some parents stay together long-term but choose not to get married.
- A lot of children also live with their step dads.
But the reality is there is no where in which equality exists between black and white people.
At every type of family structure, every level of education, white people make more income and have more wealth on average again across the board. So the racial gap exists.
Income-wise, there are definitely some places where blacks out-earn whites.
You wouldn't hear about it b/c people are only interested in black ppl screwing up, failing or lagging behind.
Don't mix up "out of wedlock" with a child living in a single-parent home. Out of wedlock means a child born to parents unmarried at the time of birth.
- A lot of families wait until after the kids are born to get married.
- Some parents stay together long-term but choose not to get married.
- A lot of children also live with their step dads.
^^^ These make up a huge amount of families.
There is an issue and we should not pretend that it does not exist. I taught, for a small time, in inner city Detroit. It was clear that most kids had some form of an absent father.
"A study conducted by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found that 25.8 percent of American children are raised by a single parent, a number high above the 14.9 percent average seen in the other 26 countries surveyed. Among African-Americans the rate nearly tripled, with 72 percent of black children relying on a single parent."
Per politifact: American Kids who do not live in the same home as their father: Asians 17%, Whites 25%, Hispanics 42%, Native Americans 53%, Black non-Hispanics 67%
"We should note that this data doesn’t suggest that 67 percent of African-American children have no contact with their father (or a father figure), but rather that their father does not live in the same household with them."
Of course a single mother living in a rental whose family were only given opportunities 50 years ago will have only a tiny bit of wealth. Wealth is multi-generational and so is acquiring a middle-class mindset.
In this case, I think it would be a better comparison to compare:
1. The wealth gap of black and white two-parent homes.
2. The wealth gap of black and whites of similar income groups.
I do agree that the high (%) of single-parent homes is DEVASTATING the inner-city black community; and is the root to a lot of problems. Once this improves then things will look much less bleak and the next step would be for these people to buy homes in areas that hold their value well and are likely to gain equity.
I'm black and live in a middle-income suburban black neighborhood. Even though things aren't 100% perfect around here, it's a good area and living here does paint a picture of what the black community would be like if most black households were intact. For all these users so obsessed with black ppl, it should be an interesting trip to travel to a more stable black area:
- The only negative stereotype that is accurate around here is that a lot of teen boys feel the need to live up to a ghetto image (due to society's expectations). Welfare/programs, broken homes, gangs, murders, brawls and grown men speaking ebonics are either extremely rare or straight up non-existent.
You are very uninformed.
The wealth and income gap exists for all family structures and All levels of education when comparing black and white people. SMH this information exists.
Here I'll give you a starter it is a book I read in the late 1990's that was produced in the mid 1990's.
Title black wealth white wealth. You don't have to speculate. You can get out of the fog of ignorance and assumptions and know.
This knowing will alow you get that the income and wealth gaps exist for all family structures when comparing black and white Americans as I clearly stated in previous posts.
These gaps have nothing to do with single parent households or black people who live in inner cities, or black high school drop outs.
What the data show is that black people of every family configuration and every level of education on average makes less and has far less wealth than white people with the same characteristics.
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