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Old 08-26-2014, 06:25 PM
 
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There are only a few places that are actually warmer than usual this year. Most of the world is cooler than normal. Northern Europe is having it's coolest summer in decades. In Minnesota, this is the 3rd or 4th summer in a row where we are barely breaking 90 degrees. This summer we've had 2 days over 90. Today it barely made it over 70.

Growing up in the 70's, it was common to go over 100 degrees around here in the summer. I bet it's been 10 years since we've seen 100 degrees.

This Global Warming is the biggest sham since the Pet Rock and Skylab helmets.

 
Old 08-26-2014, 06:35 PM
 
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There are none. The only links on the site are to a bunch of blogs that say they are false and have no links to any study, actual news article, or facts. It says it is from the BOM and sends you to a dead link.

The only thing that provides any data (but no reference) is a site called Wattsupwiththat, a blog so stupid even climate change deniers ask it to stop because it makes them look stupid. I know you have been provided with those links on several occasions in previous threads while citing the same thing. Anthony Watts thinks it's a monumental scan to put people into camps by the controllers of the black helicopters and chemtrails.
But as soon as you use the term "climate change deniers" you pretty much put yourself squarely in the ranks of the stupid yourself.

Rational people whose comments can be taken seriously don't use ridiculing terms designed to marginalize people they don't agree with.

So all you're doing is using the "I know you are but what am I" argument. If you expect to have a shred of credibility in judging the seriousness of others, you should refrain from using juvenile tactics like labeling people deniers.
 
Old 08-26-2014, 08:44 PM
 
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Yes breitbart is such a reliable source to get beliefs from, it MUST be true if it came from there.

Care to provide a link that isn't from the right wings version of mother jones?

You actually think they're going to have that come out on liberal mainstream media!? That won't help the sky is falling fear mongering crowd out to get their carbon taxes.
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Old 08-27-2014, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Its all about one weather station, the removal of which is not going to make that much of a difference in the overall trend of data. Its getting warmer.
No, it's not about one weather station at all. It's about the lies, errors, cover ups and deceit that keep popping up. If we expose these "scientists" fudging data a few times, how many times have they done it and not been caught?
 
Old 08-27-2014, 05:56 AM
 
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Yes breitbart is such a reliable source to get beliefs from, it MUST be true if it came from there.

Care to provide a link that isn't from the right wings version of mother jones?
From a guy who seems to call other people ignorant, comes the argument that facts, events, and truth can be ignored, if it comes from a place that you want to discredit because of politics.
 
Old 08-27-2014, 06:00 AM
 
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So far it all seems based off of breitbart reporting this.

Breitbart and facts are not exactly commonplace.

Heres some other discussions of this specific topic:

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

Makes the argument that things like this should be subject to peer review before being bandied about like they are facts. Which has some merit.

This response to that:
Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian
Also has some merit.

Its all about one weather station, the removal of which is not going to make that much of a difference in the overall trend of data. Its getting warmer.
You are quite incorrect.

That the raw data has been randomly "adjusted" is not news. It's old news, WIDELY published, and discussed by the people who DID the adjusting, including their arguments for doing so.

Why do liberals like yourself try to pretend history doesn't exist, and you ignore what happened and was said / debated / published last week / month / year / decade in an effort to get people to disbelieve what is established fact? Why do you have to make dishonest arguments like the above? What is so important about getting people to believe what you want them to, that you will try every deceptive argument ever dreamed up to advance your agenda?
 
Old 08-27-2014, 06:01 AM
 
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So if AGW is so obviously true and "the science is settled", why do AGW supporters feel the need to fudge the data?


 
Old 08-27-2014, 06:07 AM
 
Location: DC
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Why are the true believers so anti-science and continue to cling to their debunked religion?

Heat is on over weather bureau
Please post some science that demonstrates anthropogentic climate change isn't happening. All I see are sensational stories by RW news blogs -- Briebart? Really?
 
Old 08-27-2014, 06:13 AM
 
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But as soon as you use the term "climate change deniers" you pretty much put yourself squarely in the ranks of the stupid yourself.

Rational people whose comments can be taken seriously don't use ridiculing terms designed to marginalize people they don't agree with.

So all you're doing is using the "I know you are but what am I" argument. If you expect to have a shred of credibility in judging the seriousness of others, you should refrain from using juvenile tactics like labeling people deniers.
Denying reality makes one a denier. Either prove it correct or quit being so politically correct that people shouldn't use the correct term because it hurts your feelings. Being called a denier doesn't suddenly disprove science because it hurts your fragile feelings.

I would stay that pushing a denial of science after being continually being debunked and crying is about as childish as being an adult crying when someone says Santa doesn't exist. Quit projecting onto others and grow up. Then you won't be treated like a child.
 
Old 08-27-2014, 06:16 AM
 
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Please post some science that demonstrates anthropogentic climate change isn't happening. All I see are sensational stories by RW news blogs -- Briebart? Really?
No, you have to prove it is. If you can't prove it is, it isn't.
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