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Why destroy something you count on for funding? Obviously, they did not like how this was setup or had concerns over the financial implications. The implementation was very rushed, which has caused many problems. The tendency for fed govt programs is to continue growing, so that is the likely outcome.
Nonsense, when conservative elected officials criticize "Obamacare", of which the Medicaid expansion is a huge part, they savage Medicaid over and over again. Yet they fought to keep that funding of what they consider a horrible program.
This doesn't make any sense. They had a chance to get rid of what they described as a horrible unaffordable program.
The implementation was not rushed. The law was signed in 2010, and implemented in 2014.
The states who have implemented the Medicaid expansion have had few difficulties with it.
Next step in the process is to get to work on that bunker.
what bunker? I live in a condo and I own a rental house at the beach. couldn't have a bunker on either property. leave humor to comedians, so your comments don't blow up in your face anymore.
what bunker? I live in a condo and I own a rental house at the beach. couldn't have a bunker on either property. leave humor to comedians, so your comments don't blow up in your face anymore.
I'm a registered independent just like you. When you stated that you didn't vote any more and had dropped out of the process completely, a bunker just seemed like the next logical progression.
I found it odd that someone who has avowed to abandon the american political process was so actively, politically opinionated, here on the forums.
A bunker seemed like the next logical step, as there are currently a plethora of angry people who have abandoned the American Democratic process and sit angrily alone and isolated, thinking the government and all liberals are out to get them. They take comfort in their total non-participation, their guns and their sense of isolated security. Based on your posts I thought you'd fit that mold. Sorry if that's not the case.
This will get some kind of health insurance to people who really need it, mostly single childless adults working lower wage jobs that don't have employer coverage.
This will get some kind of health insurance to people who really need it, mostly single childless adults working lower wage jobs that don't have employer coverage.
Who is the genius who came up with a program that thumbs its nose at low-wage workers while covering people who choose not to work?
Who is the genius who came up with a program that thumbs its nose at low-wage workers while covering people who choose not to work?
Republicans........that's who.
In a republican state, if you are at or below the official poverty level, you get Medicaid. If you have a low paying job and make more than the official poverty level but less than 135% of the poverty level, you get nothing. This gap is where most of the low wage workers fall.
It's just good policy and the hospitals in those states are begging for it to happen as it means the problem of uninsured people not being able to pay their bills virtually disappears. This is why rates are dropping in most states which did expand medicaid. It's mainly going up only in Republican controlled states which refused to take the free (to the state) Medicaid expansion which the Feds have agreed to pay for.
You're just shifting the cost it.
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How long ago was that? 20-25 years ago? You do realize health insurance has increased drastically since then?'
But so has our obesity, demand for the latest and greatest treatments, the increase requirements on what must be covered under plans, and the creation of those with health insurance having to cover the costs for those on Medicare/Medicaid/uninsured.
The effects of the ACA still haven't all kicked in yet. I still think we're 2-3 years away from when all of the provisions and personal adjustments are really kick in.
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If you are but 45 you will, statistically speaking, likely live to see the advent of universal tax-funded healthcare in the US. And your medicare deductions pay only a small and decreasing share of the costs of the program. The bulk of it is paid for by younger working people. Then too, you miss the point. When we get universal tax supported healthcare, everyone will pay something toward it because it will be very likely partially funded by a value added tax.
I don't see it happening. The younger generation doesn't have the economic bulk to support a large and aging boomer population's health problems. Medicare/Medicaid doesn't cover the costs of treatments now, how will such a system be better?
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Who is the genius who came up with a program that thumbs its nose at low-wage workers while covering people who choose not to work?
The intention was to cover low income families (mainly single mothers and their children). Low income childless adults were excluded from the program. This exclusion had the effect of incentivizing irresponsible childbearing.
Also, the cut off for Medicaid is very low (33% of poverty for some adults), which incentivizes people to work less because if they move up the income ladder only slightly, they'll lose their health benefits.
But so has our obesity, demand for the latest and greatest treatments, the increase requirements on what must be covered under plans, and the creation of those with health insurance having to cover the costs for those on Medicare/Medicaid/uninsured.
The effects of the ACA still haven't all kicked in yet. I still think we're 2-3 years away from when all of the provisions and personal adjustments are really kick in.
I don't see it happening. The younger generation doesn't have the economic bulk to support a large and aging boomer population's health problems. Medicare/Medicaid doesn't cover the costs of treatments now, how will such a system be better?
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Medicare is good health insurance, My wife and I have been on it for 4 years, I have been very surprised and pleased at how comprehensive it is. It pays providers quite well. I know what it pays both my GP and specialist that I see, they are doing OK with it. The major problem is finding a GP who will take it because some of them are booked up and don't take new patients regardless of the kind of insurance that you have.
Medicaid is a different story. Its rates are low and many doctors (mine as well) won't take it. Likewise sometimes they won't take Medicare only without some form of additional insurance.
Really though, the US has no choice but to eventually go with some kind of universal health insurance program. Other countries health costs with such systems are 30%-50% less than the US. Its only a matter of time until costs dictate that change for the US.
Medicare is good health insurance, My wife and I have been on it for 4 years, I have been very surprised and pleased at how comprehensive it is. It pays providers quite well. I know what it pays both my GP and specialist that I see, they are doing OK with it. The major problem is finding a GP who will take it because some of them are booked up and don't take new patients regardless of the kind of insurance that you have.
Medicaid is a different story. Its rates are low and many doctors (mine as well) won't take it. Likewise sometimes they won't take Medicare only without some form of additional insurance.
Really though, the US has no choice but to eventually go with some kind of universal health insurance program. Other countries health costs with such systems are 30%-50% less than the US. Its only a matter of time until costs dictate that change for the US.
This new Medicaid program offered by Corbett is going to subsidize private insurers. The patients will use the private insurers to access services, and the provider will be reimbursed by that private insurer at commercial rates. The argument is these patients will have better access to providers than they would under a traditional expansion of Medicaid.
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