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Old 08-31-2014, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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Eventually the cost of all-electric vehicles will come down to what a typical person can afford, and I truly believe that's going to be the future of driving.
For the avg. Joe... I'd say you would be right. However, you will also always have to have a regular combustion engine for trucking, long-haul drives (not a lot of plug-ins in the middle of the mojave!) and don't forget.. the actual roadways and most of the parts are made either from or by fossil fuels in some part or combination thereof. It's not just as easy as saying... no more gasoline/diesel cars...
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Old 08-31-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Humboldt County, CA
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For the avg. Joe... I'd say you would be right. However, you will also always have to have a regular combustion engine for trucking, long-haul drives (not a lot of plug-ins in the middle of the mojave!) and don't forget.. the actual roadways and most of the parts are made either from or by fossil fuels in some part or combination thereof. It's not just as easy as saying... no more gasoline/diesel cars...
Eventually we're going to have to find replacements for those things, and I think a lot of it really is going to come down to electric. Bigger batteries, huge banks capable of holding a day's worth of charge to keep a semi going aren't unrealistic, even if they're beyond our current capabilities. We moved from cobblestones and dirt to asphalt easily enough, and I imagine when we need to, we'll make the transition to a suitable replacement easily enough.
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Old 09-05-2014, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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I've argued against the bail out many times.
Join the club, then.


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They dislike getting shafted with these higher taxes. They shouldn't have to fight the politicians to keep them from piling on more and more taxes when they are not able to afford things now.
Ok...?

I'm not actually saying it's a good situation to be in, I hope you get that. Should they have to fight politicians? Yes and no. Ideally, we'd be electing people who are actually decent human beings, but we don't, mainly because the pool of candidates we can actually pick from is determined ahead of time by whatever corporate lobbyists decide the best person for the job is.

We can't trust politicians or any government figure. Not indefinitely anyway. I'm not saying no decent politicians exist, but the corporate servants tip the scale by quite a lot. Like it or not, fighting government is essentially inevitable. It's a shame that's how it is, but that's sort of how things end up being at some point.


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I'm good with what I said.
Ok.
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Old 09-05-2014, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Liberal or not, to me this is common sense. The car culture in California is ridiculous. They have to get a much higher percentage of those 38 million people out of their cars and onto mass transit. It's a serious quality of life issue there.
If this results in less traffic on the roads, then I'm all for it.

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Old 09-05-2014, 05:05 PM
 
Location: California
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Yes, CA does have a huge car culture that won't go away because of how the state is developed. And CA is also pushing for the alternatives to gas more than any other state. It's a logical combo.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Btw it is an increase of about 30 cents TO $1 per gallon not a $1 increase.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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That can't be sold here because of other regulations. I bought a Jetta TDI but what I really wanted was a Polo.
That has nothing to do with regulations and everything to do VW' s management believing not enough Americans would buy a car that size. Btw there is a really good TDI forum for VWs on the net if you Google it.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:40 PM
 
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Join the club, then.



Ok...?

I'm not actually saying it's a good situation to be in, I hope you get that. Should they have to fight politicians? Yes and no. Ideally, we'd be electing people who are actually decent human beings, but we don't, mainly because the pool of candidates we can actually pick from is determined ahead of time by whatever corporate lobbyists decide the best person for the job is.
Nobody forces you to vote for the candidate of the two main parties.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:41 PM
 
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That has nothing to do with regulations and everything to do VW' s management believing not enough Americans would buy a car that size. Btw there is a really good TDI forum for VWs on the net if you Google it.
Nobody would buy it after it gets retrofitted to meet US standards as it then gets priced out of the market.
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Old 09-06-2014, 12:55 AM
 
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Btw it is an increase of about 30 cents TO $1 per gallon not a $1 increase.
An increase of one cent is too much.
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