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Old 09-09-2014, 01:41 PM
 
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Any student of any other religion who was not also provided an unrequested prayer room in that school district was discriminated against on the basis of religion: Title IV violation. Period. End of discussion.
This is what I'm talking about. No logic.

Your argument is that since some students didn't get something they didn't want, need or request, they were treated unfavorably.

Crazy.
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Old 09-09-2014, 01:44 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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This is literally the stupidest argument I've ever encountered. It would be laughed out of any courtroom.
No, it wouldn't. All or none, otherwise discrimination is clearly present.
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Old 09-09-2014, 01:47 PM
 
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This is what I'm talking about. No logic.
On the contrary, it's completely logical.

You're basing your opinion on emotions and feelings, not on logic. Typical lefty mistake.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:04 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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You're glossing over the fact that the school in question provided an unrequested prayer room for Muslims only. That act of providing one without being asked to do so, but not providing the same for every other religion is what places them squarely in violation of Title IV which prohibits religion-based discrimination in public schools.

Only someone with an agenda conveniently ignores the fact that the Muslim students did not request a prayer room and that the school district provided them one on its own initiative.

The school in question must provide a prayer room for either all religions, or none of them. Religious-based discrimination is a violation of Title IV.
You have explained it very clearly.

By providing the Muslim students with a room for religious purposes when they did not request it, the school is actually promoting a specific religion and that is a clear violation.

Why don't people get it?
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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By providing the Muslim students with a room for religious purposes when they did not request it, the school is actually promoting a specific religion and that is a clear violation.

Why don't people get it?
Does this mean you've joined the camp to keep ALL religions (prayers of any kind) out of public schools? Informed Consent clearly has.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:14 PM
 
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On the contrary, it's completely logical.

You're basing your opinion on emotions and feelings, not on logic. Typical lefty mistake.
Once again,

Your argument: People who do not receive something that they don't need, don't want, and haven't asked for, are being treated unfavorably.

This is "completely logical" only in IC world. Not in the real world.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:14 PM
 
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You have explained it very clearly.

By providing the Muslim students with a room for religious purposes when they did not request it, the school is actually promoting a specific religion and that is a clear violation.

Why don't people get it?
Because they have an unconstitutional agenda.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Because they have an unconstitutional agenda.
Do you support constitutional amendment to ban ALL prayers in public school/buildings?
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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Once again,

Your argument: People who do not receive something that they don't need
End of discussion right there. Muslims do not need a prayer room to observe Salat.

Stop emoting, and start thinking.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:17 PM
 
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You have explained it very clearly.

By providing the Muslim students with a room for religious purposes when they did not request it, the school is actually promoting a specific religion and that is a clear violation.

Why don't people get it?
Again, they provided the Muslim students with a vacant room for TEN MINUTES a day, so that the student body would not be disrupted. The school, in keeping the students' day from being disrupted, are NOT promoting a specific religion, or even promoting religion in general.

YOU don't get it because you are so focused on the idea that Muslim students are getting something that Christian students aren't getting, that you don't see what Christian students ARE getting. An education without any disruptions or distractions.
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