Do you think Europeans/Canadians rely on their government too much? (generations, money)
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I have a hunch the OP has never been to Canada or Europe.
Sounds like he's never been to AMERICA either or he surely would not have posted such a stupidly inane piece of garbage! You cannot take one step in the U.S. without being confronted with some aspect of government oversight be it state or federal.
That is what free humans do anyway. Do you voluntarily obey laws that you think are immoral? If you do, then I applaud your unwavering allegiance to a fictional entity that only serves those in power.
The statist mindset is strong on this forum.
The fear of the unknown is so ingrained that it reminds me of a child needing a lucky blanket to sleep with or else the closet monster will get her.
1. There is no closet monster.
2. Even if there was a closet monster that lucky blanket isn't going to fight off the beast.
Are you sure they don't scan your license when you show it? Same thing.
This was 1980 so it was old school tech. We were in Vancouver for a hockey tournament some years back but still in the modern era-probably around '07. They asked for my ID and scanned it into their computer. So they have a picture of my ID with the purchase. I figured it was the same policy with new technology.
I know I didn't like it and that's never happened in the US.
I get asked for my Canadian photo ID driver's license when buying booze at WALMART EVERY SINGLE time in Florida and I'm 68 years old.
I get asked for my photo ID driver's license in every single one of your airports when attempting to purchase an alcohol beverage at a restaurant.
What argument? It's reality. We have ugly, murderous ghettos in the middle of most big cities. We have widespread poverty of Appalachia and the South. And we allow it to continue, don't we?
I don't think you get it. Obama can't stop shootings in Chicago or anywhere else.
It's the failed social system that will forever haunt American public life that causes them. Harmonious development is the only sustainable option for this and any other society.
Are you sure they don't scan your license when you show it? Same thing.
This was 1980 so it was old school tech. We were in Vancouver for a hockey tournament some years back but still in the modern era-probably around '07. They asked for my ID and scanned it into their computer. So they have a picture of my ID with the purchase. I figured it was the same policy with new technology.
I know I didn't like it and that's never happened in the US.
They never ask me for my license at the liquor store. I pick a bottle of rum or vodka, and pay for it at the cash register. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Here's a thought for you. I'm 68 years old and am required to show ID at Walmart in Fla to prove I'm old enough to buy booze. In American Airports I'm required to show my I/D in restaurants and cafes before I can be served alchohol. How's your American Butt handle that?
Now let's move along to being thrown in jail for collecting rainwater on your own land.
And then we can discuss EBT cards and food supplements to the extent that fully 50% of your population are reliant upon gover't handouts to freak'n feed themselves:
Gee this one shows individual income tax rate in Canada being a full ten percent lower.
Now in summation; you make a broad brush statement of OTHER countries being reliant upon government largesse or oversight and you're the freak'n nation that has had this chit in place for decades: Foodstamps, EBT cards, Medicare, Medicaid, the VA, Obama phones, TAX deductions for everything from mortgage payments to dental expenses. NSA snooping in your private lives, Patriot ACT allowing for full abrogation of any of your rights to habeus corpus on the whim of any one of three government entities deeming you someone of interest YOU can be thrown in jail INDEFINITELY under that little piece of legislation.
Most of us don't crow about our freedoms because if we did you would have very early on learned you're less free than many of those countries you're slanging as "used to and reliant upon gov't oversight".
Not to mention: we can marry whoever we want, visit any country we want (Cuba), buy any sized sugary drink we want, nibble a PopTart into the shape of a gun if we want, and have an abortion if we want, without being subjected to invasive vaginal ultrasounds.
Yeah, let's talk about freedoms!
They never ask me for my license at the liquor store. I pick a bottle of rum or vodka, and pay for it at the cash register. I have no idea what you're talking about.
That went the way of the dodo years ago. It was a feature to prevent underage from buying liquor. We used to approach a table like the old banks used to have with deposit and withdrawal slips and fill out a form listing our age, address and license number of car. After selecting our purchases we handed the slip over to the counter clerk while paying for our goods. Now it's just a simple guess-and-by-golly age verification based upon the counter people visually assessing your age.
However; the TSA or some such in the U.S. has forced policy upon all alcohol providers within international airports to verify by demanding photo ID .. My wife at 66 years of age got such a kick out of the server in the Carrabas Restaruant in Tampa Int'l demanding to see her I/D. I swear she was going to adopt the kid. He explained it was a FEDERAL regulation to demand EVERYONE'S ID before serving an alcoholic beverage.
Walmart apparently has some policy in effect also as we were required to show ID there as well in Polk County Florida.
And how many of those oh-so-sure-they-are-superior Europeans have been to the US and know its vast diversity of life? Almost none. Some visit a big city or two, but grasp nothing.
Hi. I lived in Europe for 30-some years (two countries) and have lived in the US for well over a decade. I am not going to get into a generalities-based p.ssing match about the different models, but if you have a concrete example or area you wish to debate, by all means.
As for the "show ID to buy booze" example, well - where I grew up (Denmark) there was no drinking age. None. A nine-year-old could walk up and buy a bottle of booze if he had the money. (It's since been changed and you have to be sixteen to buy beer & wine, 18 to buy hard alcohol.) We drank like fish in high school.
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