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Old 09-03-2014, 09:11 PM
 
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Really? Can I buy you? You seem to be worth about 5 dollars. Also, what did your wife do to earn the right to vote?
Sure...eh how about 25$? Does it come with house and food!? I love doing farm work... She gave birth to 3 almost 4 kids...that in my book qualifies her...and in my kind of nation that would be one of the things a woman could do to earn citizenship. Each person either serves so much time in a civil service or military service,attends college OR becomes a mother of at least 3 children.

 
Old 09-03-2014, 09:11 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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As a native Southerner, Republican, and conservative, we need to get off these moral issues down South and focus on job creation, retaining young people, and economic development overall.
 
Old 09-03-2014, 09:13 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Nope. Think its to vague in most places and to easily open to interpretation instead of easy to understand and follow.
Well I'll admit you definitely march to your own beat. I couldn't disagree with your views more, however, at least you're not unoriginal...
 
Old 09-03-2014, 09:15 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Not glad the SC will eventually IMO rule in favor of the homosexuals but I realize its going to happen. The only silver lining I see is that people with traditional values will see their country is being destroyed by vermin and scum and its no longer leave it to beaver nation...its either fight back and regain what's yours or watch it all go down the toilet. I wonder sometimes what will it take for people to fight back?

The Supreme Court already made a ruling, way back when gay marriage became a topic and passed in the first state.

There is no where in the constitution, that gives the federal government any power to rule on the issue, this making it a state issue.
 
Old 09-03-2014, 09:18 PM
 
Location: OC/LA
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As a native Southerner, Republican, and conservative, we need to get off these moral issues down South and focus on job creation, retaining young people, and economic development overall.
But if they do that then some candidates might get elected
 
Old 09-03-2014, 09:18 PM
 
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So what should be the price to earn your citizenship and right to vote?
I already went over that.
 
Old 09-03-2014, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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The Supreme Court already made a ruling, way back when gay marriage became a topic and passed in the first state.

There is no where in the constitution, that gives the federal government any power to rule on the issue, this making it a state issue.
I'm not sure the Supremes will be able to duck it that easily, although they might well want to.

Marriages have always been recognized across state borders, even if, for instance, the age of consent laws were different. What happens if one state refuses to recognize a SSM that is legal in another state? Contract law is definitely a federal issue.

What's your take?
 
Old 09-03-2014, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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dont be celebrating just yet, remember this has to wend its way through to the scotus before all the shouting is done, and chances are this is merely winning a single battle, and i fear the war will ultimately be lost on this.
I don't see Kennedy doing a 180 on popular referendums as would need to be the case following the Michigan AA case.

If blacks don't have a specific constitutional right to special treatment under the law and this special treatment is prohibited because of a state referendum, same-sex marriage, another made-up right will go the way of Michigan AA per the SCOTUS.


As Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in the controlling opinion, “This case is not about how the debate about racial preferences should be resolved … It is about who may resolve it.”

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117472/supreme-court-and-affirmative-action-legal-experts-schuette


When the same-sex marriage crowd gets in there and tries to defend the numerous overturned state DOMAs, they'll have to explain why a judge has the power to overrule the people.
 
Old 09-03-2014, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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OK, I think I get where you are coming from and how you came to your conclusion. By the way, according to your definition, I am vermin and scum. Just so we get that out of the way right now, we need not mention it again.

I am afraid you are out of luck as to waiting for the nation to rise up and fight back around the issue of same-sex marriage. America is becoming more tolerant of gay people, not less.


How many states have repealed their state DOMAs?
 
Old 09-03-2014, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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When the same-sex marriage crowd gets in there and tries to defend the numerous overturned state DOMAs, they'll have to explain why a judge has the power to overrule the people.
That'll be straightforward. They make the case that marriage is a constitutional right, as the Supremes have already ruled, and a constitutional right trumps a state legislature every.darn.time.

I am eager to see what the defenders of the various DOMAs will come up with to get around this, but I really don't see what it could be.

Another interesting thing is that least some of the states with overturned DOMAs probably won't bother to spend the money to defend them.
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