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Old 09-05-2014, 12:25 PM
 
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Date matters. Before the ACA lawsuits, Gruber stated one thing. After the lawsuits went to court, Gruber stated the exact opposite. The legal term for that is... perjury.
Gruber stated one thing, then Gruber retracted his comments. That's not perjury. That's correcting one's misstatements. Perjury involves sworn testimony in a court of law.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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She was charged with "disorderly conduct".
The city had a LAW to enforce segregation on city buses.

An Act of Courage, The Arrest Records of Rosa Parks
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:27 PM
 
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The city had a LAW to enforce segregation on city buses.

An Act of Courage, The Arrest Records of Rosa Parks
Laws not enforced really are not laws. They charged her with disorderly conduct.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:30 PM
 
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Not me, but yes, it does make your argument completely irrelevant. As opposed to making a good solid argument you only wish to demonize those you disagree with.
Epic conflation.

Calling someone's comments irrelevant is not "demonization".
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:32 PM
 
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Epic conflation.

Calling someone's comments irrelevant is not "demonization".
Out of context, correct. Next time read the entire conversation.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:32 PM
 
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Laws not enforced really are not laws. They charged her with disorderly conduct.
AND still, there WAS a LAW, she knowingly BROKE that law, and subsequently drew attention to the injustice of that LAW. That's CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.

If no law is broken, then it's NOT civil disobedience.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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Out of context, correct. Next time read the entire conversation.
I did read it. No one was DEMONized. Shame on you for being dishonest!
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:38 PM
 
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Gruber stated one thing, then Gruber retracted his comments.
Gruber didn't "retract" his statements until after the ACA cases went to court. Why did the law actually mean what it says before, but suddenly now it somehow doesn't? Gruber's flip flop is very politically transparent. Only a fool or someone completely lacking integrity would believe his supposed "retraction."

And perjury is deliberately telling an untruth under oath in court. There is sufficient evidence to suspect that Gruber committed perjury, based on his multiple recorded prior statements.
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:39 PM
 
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AND still, there WAS a LAW, she knowingly BROKE that law, and subsequently drew attention to the injustice of that LAW. That's CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.

If no law is broken, then it's NOT civil disobedience.
There were no laws against camping in the park.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/ny...anted=all&_r=0
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:40 PM
 
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I did read it. No one was DEMONized. Shame on you for being dishonest!
Seems to be a typical tactic here when backed into a corner.
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